Is Gram now a forward?

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Is Gram now a forward?

Post: # 1063822Post Sainternist »

Looked sharp in front of goal in that second half. He no longer has the pace he once possessed to run off half-back ala Aussie Jones. Not to mention, his defensive skills are no longer up to scatch.

Leave him up forward, I say.


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Post: # 1063831Post BigMart »

He played hbf all night.....played pretty well...he is far from the biggest problem....

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Gram missed tackles and shirked contests. Good on him for finishing well sometimes, but he should talk to Lenny about consistent effort.


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Sainternist wrote:Looked sharp in front of goal in that second half. He no longer has the pace he once possessed to run off half-back ala Aussie Jones. Not to mention, his defensive skills are no longer up to scatch.

Leave him up forward, I say.
Ees problem. Something like 7 I50 tackles. Gram would not eemprove.


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Post: # 1063851Post terry smith rules »

dcstkfc wrote:Gram missed tackles and shirked contests. Good on him for finishing well sometimes, but he should talk to Lenny about consistent effort.
I love this line trotted out every week by some ""ëxpert

Can you actually post acouple of the shirked contests rather than just generalise

Yes channel 7 showed a play where he flung his hand out to tackle but if you were ACTUALLY watching you would have seen that in the slippery condition he had gone past the player and had no chance of ever laying a tackle


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Re: Is Gram now a forward?

Post: # 1063852Post Bernard Shakey »

goddardisgod wrote:
Sainternist wrote:Looked sharp in front of goal in that second half. He no longer has the pace he once possessed to run off half-back ala Aussie Jones. Not to mention, his defensive skills are no longer up to scatch.

Leave him up forward, I say.
Ees problem. Something like 7 I50 tackles. Gram would not eemprove.
English please. Oh and Gram is still the worst kick in the comp.


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Post: # 1063888Post degruch »

Bernard Shakey wrote:
goddardisgod wrote:
Sainternist wrote:Looked sharp in front of goal in that second half. He no longer has the pace he once possessed to run off half-back ala Aussie Jones. Not to mention, his defensive skills are no longer up to scatch.

Leave him up forward, I say.
Ees problem. Something like 7 I50 tackles. Gram would not eemprove.
English please. Oh and Gram is still the worst kick in the comp.
Absolutely, but if he gets 30 of them a game, according to some, he justifies his position in the side. Up until the start of the third, I was still wondering why we'd selected him again.


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terry smith rules wrote:
dcstkfc wrote:Gram missed tackles and shirked contests. Good on him for finishing well sometimes, but he should talk to Lenny about consistent effort.
I love this line trotted out every week by some ""ëxpert

Can you actually post acouple of the shirked contests rather than just generalise

Yes channel 7 showed a play where he flung his hand out to tackle but if you were ACTUALLY watching you would have seen that in the slippery condition he had gone past the player and had no chance of ever laying a tackle
I cant describe them all because there were quite a few examples tonight. All players will miss tackles at some stage during a game but Gram appears to lack the intensity required to go in and get a hard ball. This however could be said about several of our players this year and as such we are lacking the team intensity which was our trademark during 2009 and 2010


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Post: # 1064047Post SaintDippa »

I understand that not everyone can be in-and-under but Gram gives the term 'outside' midfielder an new definition. Swear most of his footy tonight was played on Stanley St. Softest player in the AFL.


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SaintDippa wrote:I understand that not everyone can be in-and-under but Gram gives the term 'outside' midfielder an new definition. Swear most of his footy tonight was played on Stanley St. Softest player in the AFL.
It's a tough one. I respect the courage of anyone who takes the field to play Australian rules football, but sometimes you do wonder...


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Re: Is Gram now a forward?

Post: # 1064191Post goddardisgod »

Bernard Shakey wrote:
goddardisgod wrote:
Sainternist wrote:Looked sharp in front of goal in that second half. He no longer has the pace he once possessed to run off half-back ala Aussie Jones. Not to mention, his defensive skills are no longer up to scatch.

Leave him up forward, I say.
Ees problem. Something like 7 I50 tackles. Gram would not eemprove.
English please. Oh and Gram is still the worst kick in the comp.
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goddardisgod wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:
goddardisgod wrote:
Sainternist wrote:Looked sharp in front of goal in that second half. He no longer has the pace he once possessed to run off half-back ala Aussie Jones. Not to mention, his defensive skills are no longer up to scatch.

Leave him up forward, I say.
Ees problem. Something like 7 I50 tackles. Gram would not eemprove.
English please. Oh and Gram is still the worst kick in the comp.
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SaintDippa wrote:I understand that not everyone can be in-and-under but Gram gives the term 'outside' midfielder an new definition. Swear most of his footy tonight was played on Stanley St. Softest player in the AFL.
You would have laid on the ground and cried like a baby if Merrett hit you like he hit Gram.

To Grams credit he was getting back up before he had finished going down.

But I suppose you and the other hero's on here who have never been hit like that would say he couldn't "shirk" that hit :roll:

Yes his intensity is down, and he needs to hit harder in tackles, but I would put his courage up against anyone of his critics on a bloody internet forum :roll:


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joffaboy wrote:
SaintDippa wrote:I understand that not everyone can be in-and-under but Gram gives the term 'outside' midfielder an new definition. Swear most of his footy tonight was played on Stanley St. Softest player in the AFL.
You would have laid on the ground and cried like a baby if Merrett hit you like he hit Gram.

To Grams credit he was getting back up before he had finished going down.

But I suppose you and the other hero's on here who have never been hit like that would say he couldn't "shirk" that hit :roll:

Yes his intensity is down, and he needs to hit harder in tackles, but I would put his courage up against anyone of his critics on a bloody internet forum :roll:
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Post: # 1064200Post borderbarry »

I thought he played well over all, although may now be suited to HFF or Wing rahter than defence. Did well enough to hold his spot. Several others did'nt.


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Post: # 1064202Post BigMart »

Gram played hbf.......and ran hard fwd

Scnieder and steven played hf

Schnieder pushed high.....


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Post: # 1064213Post plugger66 »

BigMart wrote:Gram played hbf.......and ran hard fwd

Scnieder and steven played hf

Schnieder pushed high.....
I have no idea how you can call that from TV.


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plugger66 wrote:
BigMart wrote:Gram played hbf.......and ran hard fwd

Scnieder and steven played hf

Schnieder pushed high.....
I have no idea how you can call that from TV.
impossible to tell on the tv, no one can ever tell what the hell ross is doing. From what i saw, i thought steven was playing hf and snieder was swapping with mini hf/on the ball. also i thought gram was playing wing for the last quarter, but again you can never tell.


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Re: Is Gram now a forward?

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goddardisgod wrote:
Bernard Shakey wrote:
goddardisgod wrote:
Sainternist wrote:Looked sharp in front of goal in that second half. He no longer has the pace he once possessed to run off half-back ala Aussie Jones. Not to mention, his defensive skills are no longer up to scatch.

Leave him up forward, I say.
Ees problem. Something like 7 I50 tackles. Gram would not eemprove.
English please. Oh and Gram is still the worst kick in the comp.
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SaintDippa wrote:I understand that not everyone can be in-and-under but Gram gives the term 'outside' midfielder an new definition. Swear most of his footy tonight was played on Stanley St. Softest player in the AFL.
I sniff a troll....


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SaintDippa wrote:I understand that not everyone can be in-and-under but Gram gives the term 'outside' midfielder an new definition. Swear most of his footy tonight was played on Stanley St. Softest player in the AFL.
Vulture St.

Get your facts right.

That was where his on the full kicks were headed.

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SaintPav wrote:
SaintDippa wrote:I understand that not everyone can be in-and-under but Gram gives the term 'outside' midfielder an new definition. Swear most of his footy tonight was played on Stanley St. Softest player in the AFL.
I sniff a troll....
What's with your new avatar Pav?


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dcstkfc wrote:Gram missed tackles and shirked contests. Good on him for finishing well sometimes, but he should talk to Lenny about consistent effort.
Didn't look like he shirked it when he got straight up after big Merrett barrelled him with an arm to the chest on the boundary.

Yep he doesn't really like body contact much, maybe his role is to give consistent run and carry and kick critical goals when they're needed.


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SainterK wrote:
SaintPav wrote:
SaintDippa wrote:I understand that not everyone can be in-and-under but Gram gives the term 'outside' midfielder an new definition. Swear most of his footy tonight was played on Stanley St. Softest player in the AFL.
I sniff a troll....
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