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that decision (I'll be the first)

Post: # 1063649Post terry smith rules »

was worse than the jordan russell free in the square the other week.

Don't worry about umpires interpreting the rules, they don't have a feel for the game and what is going on.

It is the sort of decision that make you question where the game is heading.

I think what makes it so bad is that the umpire had about 5 seconds watching the ball to think about it, and then still made the stupid call.


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Post: # 1063684Post BigMart »

Its only one kick......there is 400 in a game....

If the ball didnt go out....brisbane would have run it back anyway....


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Post: # 1063709Post duckduckduckgoose »

square up for the dreadful luke mcguane rushed behind.

all square now

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Post: # 1063714Post plugger66 »

duckduckduckgoose wrote:square up for the dreadful luke mcguane rushed behind.

all square now

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Post: # 1063716Post Ajer »

Get over it, we won...


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Post: # 1063721Post bergholt »

we put it out on the full about seven times. i think we did enough to shoot ourselves in the feet, don't worry about the umpires.


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Post: # 1063743Post joffaboy »

All of you people are missing the point of the thread.

We all know we played like s***. We all know that the ground was very slippery and it was like playing in wet weather so the skills were even more ordinary than usual.

That decision if it is the correct interpretation of the rule fundamentally changes football.

Montagna had nobody at all to kick to so he threw it on the boot. It bounced some 20 metres inside the boundary and then went at right angles to just roll over the line.

How in f##ks name can that be called deliberate? And if that is the correct calling, every single kick in general play that goes over the boundary has to be called deliberate.

It was possibly the worst decision I have seen in a very long time. It has nothing to do with against the Saints or not. It was unbelievably bad and as i said will fundamentally change the way football is palyed.

the game is called football after all. What was Montagna supposed to do? Just stand there and let the Lions players tackle him and get pinged for holding the ball?

It was disgraceful. Almost as disgraceful as our kicking.


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I can only think that Giecshen must have some real bad dirt on the AFL and that is how he keeps his job.
Decisions like that reflect how he instructs his umpires and it is just so wrong.
That umpire should be umpiring up near Echuca next week.


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It was a s*** decision.


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Post: # 1063803Post Sainternist »

Nevermind how bad or how well we are playing, the point which terry smith rules and myself were screaming blue murder about was that it was an absolute HOWLER of a decision.

How on earth could that umpire justify such a poor decision? Joey wasn't even trying to kick the ball to touch, it took a crooked bounce, not to mention went about 80's metres down field before crossing the line.

Hopefully this is just a one off and the umpires can clarfiy their interpretation on the deliberate rule.


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Sainternist wrote:Nevermind how bad or how well we are playing, the point which terry smith rules and myself were screaming blue murder about was that it was an absolute HOWLER of a decision.

How on earth could that umpire justify such a poor decision? Joey wasn't even trying to kick the ball to touch, it took a crooked bounce, not to mention went about 80's metres down field before crossing the line.

Hopefully this is just a one off and the umpires can clarfiy their interpretation on the deliberate rule.
It was probably incorrect or a mistake just as our players made plenty. Why can players make mistakes but umpires cant. We got 4 goals from frees tonight, 2 which were very soft. Umpires, who cares.


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Post: # 1063821Post MCG-Unit »

Massive howler of a decision :shock: and from that kick, Lions took the ball down for a goal


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Post: # 1063830Post bergholt »

Sainternist wrote:How on earth could that umpire justify such a poor decision? Joey wasn't even trying to kick the ball to touch, it took a crooked bounce, not to mention went about 80's metres down field before crossing the line.
of course he was trying to put it out. you could see him look up and then bang it as long as he could. that said, there's no way it should have been paid.

still, sooking about umpiring decisions is an even worse look when you win.


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Post: # 1063846Post BigMart »

What about the free to nick.....a direct goal...

That was SOFT

The umpires seemed to give us a lot off soft kicks

That decision was a mistake........they are made.....did not effect the result..

Should schnieder and gilbert head to echuca for making critical mistakes and directly costing goals to brisbane


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Post: # 1063857Post MCG-Unit »

Why don't you mention the soft frees and the 3 x 50m penalty goals to the Lions. It's not all one-way traffic :shock:


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BigMart wrote:What about the free to nick.....a direct goal...

That was SOFT

The umpires seemed to give us a lot off soft kicks

That decision was a mistake........they are made.....did not effect the result..

Should schnieder and gilbert head to echuca for making critical mistakes and directly costing goals to brisbane
The OP is on that one incredibly bad decision, not on the correct decision to Riewoldt or the two fifty gift goals or Meritts poor handpass that got us going again.

The intrepretatuion of that deliberate was perhaps the worst decision I have witnessed and will fiundamentally change how football is played.

Do want to see every kick out of a pack penalised? Do you want to see every 80 metre kick along the boundary called deliberate?

It was so bad because the goose of an umpire had so much time to see the ball bounce at right angles and dribble over the line.

Shocking, and if intrepreted that way from now on will ruin the game.


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Post: # 1063870Post Dr Spaceman »

ralphsmith wrote:It was a s*** decision.
Pretty much all that needs to be said about it.


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Post: # 1063875Post degruch »

There is a landmark s*** decision against the Saints every game..EVERY game. Honestly, the umpire should be suspended, as should any umpire that makes such stupendously incorrect decisions...it's the only way they'll learn get it right. Of course, the G is never wrong, neither are his troops.


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Post: # 1063880Post stinger »

terry smith rules wrote:was worse than the jordan russell free in the square the other week.

Don't worry about umpires interpreting the rules, they don't have a feel for the game and what is going on.

It is the sort of decision that make you question where the game is heading.

I think what makes it so bad is that the umpire had about 5 seconds watching the ball to think about it, and then still made the stupid call.
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Post: # 1063894Post SaintPav »

plugger66 wrote:
Sainternist wrote:Nevermind how bad or how well we are playing, the point which terry smith rules and myself were screaming blue murder about was that it was an absolute HOWLER of a decision.

How on earth could that umpire justify such a poor decision? Joey wasn't even trying to kick the ball to touch, it took a crooked bounce, not to mention went about 80's metres down field before crossing the line.

Hopefully this is just a one off and the umpires can clarfiy their interpretation on the deliberate rule.
It was probably incorrect or a mistake just as our players made plenty. Why can players make mistakes but umpires cant. We got 4 goals from frees tonight, 2 which were very soft. Umpires, who cares.
How could it have been a reasonble mistake? It wasn't like it was a close call or anything...it was a pretty bad decision.


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Post: # 1063910Post BigMart »

It was a mistake....much like luke maguane against richmond, thats all..

No need to kick and scream over one decision....relevant to bring in other decisions when discussing the OP to point out umpires stuff up, and more than once a game

Ricky ponting made a mistake by winning the toss and sending england in, it cost us the ashes.....given mcgrath rolled his ankle in the warm up...

This gave brisbane a f50 entry


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Post: # 1064126Post matrix »

ffs plugger just agree for fucksake
worst free see in YEARS, and its 'people do make mistakes'

F*** me
how can you make that mistake
ump should piss off and ump birdwood v callington next week


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Post: # 1064129Post plugger66 »

matrix wrote:ffs plugger just agree for fucksake
worst free see in YEARS, and its 'people do make mistakes'

F*** me
how can you make that mistake
ump should piss off and ump birdwood v callington next week
Worst free in years. At least that isnt over the top. I will match it later in this post. What about McGuane gainst us. That direct free cost a goal. I said it was probably a mistake and I stick by that. I have no doubt though Joey was trying to kick it out. Should Gilbert get dropped for the most obvious 50 ever and Schneider for the second most obvious ever. And why do people care. We won and got a pretty good run with the umpires. Dal and Roo got soft but probably correct calls. Could you imagine this forum if we upset after winning had the McGuane been against us and we only drew because of it.


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Post: # 1064132Post BigMart »

Id say worse free kick in weeks.....no one has responded to the maguane kick that cost richmond a game....bizarre decision, incorrect interpretation..

Or was that ok because we were the the ones to benefit....one eyed me thinks....

Why would we sack an umpire for one bad decision, id rather one shocker than poor standard all night....

Other than the howler, how does everyone rate the umpires???

How does everyone rate schnieders game??
He made a howler of a decision, should we sack him for one brain fade


Not going to completely agree......will agree it was a poor decision....not that it was poorer than other shockers we see weekly...


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Post: # 1064135Post matrix »

BigMart wrote:Id say worse free kick in weeks.....no one has responded to the maguane kick that cost richmond a game....bizarre decision, incorrect interpretation..

Or was that ok because we were the the ones to benefit....one eyed me thinks....

Why would we sack an umpire for one bad decision, id rather one shocker than poor standard all night....

Other than the howler, how does everyone rate the umpires???

How does everyone rate schnieders game??
He made a howler of a decision, should we sack him for one brain fade


Not going to completely agree......will agree it was a poor decision....not that it was poorer than other shockers we see weekly...
dpont even rememebr the mcguanne kick
was prob too fcuked off we wernt smashing the tigers by 6 goal at the time that it happened.
so no one eyed here


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