Have those 2 gf losses left you traumatised?
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Have those 2 gf losses left you traumatised?
I haven't been to a game yet this yr....I was planning to start going after about 5 or 6 games....the effects of the last two years have taken their toll... I'm wondering are there many others out there like that?
Yes, I'm a member, and will be going regularly to games again....But after watching us get so agonisingly close on two occasions, and then to watch us get thumped in the gf replay by the most dispised team, was terrible experience..........
No other supporters or club comes close to the pain we have experienced through our history.....That takes its toll....
It must be a huge burden for the players to carry too....Maybe we are mentally shot this yr....I'm not trying to make excuses, but we are NOT that bad.
The adversity they fought through (with losing Roo for 12 games), to get into gf and give their all....and just fall short and have to come back again and play a replay....and on top of that a 'pre-season from hell'.....this must be impacting the players heads...
I'm hopefull we can re-charge and bounce back...but its going to be another eventful year for the saints.....just like they always are.....
Yes, I'm a member, and will be going regularly to games again....But after watching us get so agonisingly close on two occasions, and then to watch us get thumped in the gf replay by the most dispised team, was terrible experience..........
No other supporters or club comes close to the pain we have experienced through our history.....That takes its toll....
It must be a huge burden for the players to carry too....Maybe we are mentally shot this yr....I'm not trying to make excuses, but we are NOT that bad.
The adversity they fought through (with losing Roo for 12 games), to get into gf and give their all....and just fall short and have to come back again and play a replay....and on top of that a 'pre-season from hell'.....this must be impacting the players heads...
I'm hopefull we can re-charge and bounce back...but its going to be another eventful year for the saints.....just like they always are.....
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Re: Have those 2 gf losses left you traumatised?
THIS !!!!!! ;-/kaos theory wrote:I haven't been to a game yet this yr....I was planning to start going after about 5 or 6 games....the effects of the last two years have taken their toll... I'm wondering are there many others out there like that?
Yes, I'm a member, and will be going regularly to games again....But after watching us get so agonisingly close on two occasions, and then to watch us get thumped in the gf replay by the most dispised team, was terrible experience..........
No other supporters or club comes close to the pain we have experienced through our history.....That takes its toll....
It must be a huge burden for the players to carry too....Maybe we are mentally shot this yr....I'm not trying to make excuses, but we are NOT that bad.
The adversity they fought through (with losing Roo for 12 games), to get into gf and give their all....and just fall short and have to come back again and play a replay....and on top of that a 'pre-season from hell'.....this must be impacting the players heads...
I'm hopefull we can re-charge and bounce back...but its going to be another eventful year for the saints.....just like they always are.....
Never take a backward step even to gain momentum.....
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Of course they have. Players may be great footballers but their brain is like the rest of us. Losing that second GF would effect anyone. Ask yourself if you feel the same going to the footy this year. I certainly dont and then to clearly lose our most inspirational footballer last week may be the final straw in their brains.
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Yeah, I've been seeing a therapist weekly and have been diagnosed PTSD. I'm currently on a steady diet of valium and anti-depressant medication.
I wake up every night in cold sweats from nightmares about toe taps and bad bounces.
I wake up every night in cold sweats from nightmares about toe taps and bad bounces.
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Might be something to that.The Fireman wrote:I think it has been traumatizing for the players.
I hate footy at the moment.
Wonder how some of them feel about it.
"Now the ball is loose, it gives St. Kilda a rough chance. Black. Good handpass. Voss. Schwarze now, the defender, can run and from a long way".....
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broke,broken,spent,traumatised
yes
'All night long' and 'dancing on the ceiling ' from Lionel constantly ring in my head. Visions of Milne reading the play and having everyone scream in a blood curdling roar "MILNEY"...only to have the ball take an impossible if not rigged bounce away from glory.
A moment of surreal euphoria when BJ soared is now replaced with an empty black hole.
These memories have at least put the previous years a little further back in my mind. Stupid domination in the wet,having Geelong just one goal away from being spent...Milne misses,Schneider 10 meters and several other,Mini from 10,dempster to finish them off....Milne grubs from 40 out into the open goal....people crying....these memories are now clouded at least,through the constant replay of 'all night long' over and over and over again
yes
'All night long' and 'dancing on the ceiling ' from Lionel constantly ring in my head. Visions of Milne reading the play and having everyone scream in a blood curdling roar "MILNEY"...only to have the ball take an impossible if not rigged bounce away from glory.
A moment of surreal euphoria when BJ soared is now replaced with an empty black hole.
These memories have at least put the previous years a little further back in my mind. Stupid domination in the wet,having Geelong just one goal away from being spent...Milne misses,Schneider 10 meters and several other,Mini from 10,dempster to finish them off....Milne grubs from 40 out into the open goal....people crying....these memories are now clouded at least,through the constant replay of 'all night long' over and over and over again
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People, do we want to do this in public?
All of us that survived the '80s know that we are much tougher than that.
Have a couple of weeks to freshen up, then straight back at it.
f*** them all it's us against the world. The very least we can do as supporters is make our opponents ears bleed. If you were playing, would you give up?
Don't run away. f***** arc up!!
All of us that survived the '80s know that we are much tougher than that.
Have a couple of weeks to freshen up, then straight back at it.
f*** them all it's us against the world. The very least we can do as supporters is make our opponents ears bleed. If you were playing, would you give up?
Don't run away. f***** arc up!!
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to be so hyped for so long for nothing must take it's toll. They were and are flat , notice how the young legs of the Bombers and Tigers ran rings around us? The Skunks game will be a terrible thing to behold, not to mention the Cheats.bigred wrote:Might be something to that.The Fireman wrote:I think it has been traumatizing for the players.
I hate footy at the moment.
Wonder how some of them feel about it.
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That is so aligned with my memories and mental state it is spooky Jonesy..so how are the players coping mentally..tonight suggests not very bloody well!! ;-/jonesy wrote:broke,broken,spent,traumatised
yes
'All night long' and 'dancing on the ceiling ' from Lionel constantly ring in my head. Visions of Milne reading the play and having everyone scream in a blood curdling roar "MILNEY"...only to have the ball take an impossible if not rigged bounce away from glory.
A moment of surreal euphoria when BJ soared is now replaced with an empty black hole.
These memories have at least put the previous years a little further back in my mind. Stupid domination in the wet,having Geelong just one goal away from being spent...Milne misses,Schneider 10 meters and several other,Mini from 10,dempster to finish them off....Milne grubs from 40 out into the open goal....people crying....these memories are now clouded at least,through the constant replay of 'all night long' over and over and over again
Never take a backward step even to gain momentum.....
'It's OK to have the capabilities and abilities, but you've got to get it done." Terry Daniher 05
"We have beauty in our captain and we have a true leader in our coach. Our time will come"
Thinline.Post 09 Grand final.
'It's OK to have the capabilities and abilities, but you've got to get it done." Terry Daniher 05
"We have beauty in our captain and we have a true leader in our coach. Our time will come"
Thinline.Post 09 Grand final.
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as far as i remember it , we lost 3 grannies in 13 months
i can handle anything , even THAT
but watching the 'performance' at moorabbin the day after the filth loss broke me.
pretending aint no good for no one ...reality IS what it is ... try pretending your way out of this st kilda.
i had to drive a filth supporters van , (covered in maggot membership stickers) around meleffenboring for three months after that loss ... i've paid my dues
now its time to look our demons in the eye , tell em to stick their head back up their arse and get on with the job at hand
we've got 2 weeks ... heres our first bit of luck ... a bye ... which means no loss
NO MORE PRETENDING
but on the bright side ... we only got done by 9 goals ... where as i thought it'd be 11 minimum
i can handle anything , even THAT
but watching the 'performance' at moorabbin the day after the filth loss broke me.
pretending aint no good for no one ...reality IS what it is ... try pretending your way out of this st kilda.
i had to drive a filth supporters van , (covered in maggot membership stickers) around meleffenboring for three months after that loss ... i've paid my dues
now its time to look our demons in the eye , tell em to stick their head back up their arse and get on with the job at hand
we've got 2 weeks ... heres our first bit of luck ... a bye ... which means no loss
NO MORE PRETENDING
but on the bright side ... we only got done by 9 goals ... where as i thought it'd be 11 minimum
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I know the 80s Satch but back then we were used to it , we had an ordinary bunch of players. We have now had a taste but no chocolates...very hard to cop .satchmo wrote:People, do we want to do this in public?
All of us that survived the '80s know that we are much tougher than that.
Have a couple of weeks to freshen up, then straight back at it.
f*** them all it's us against the world. The very least we can do as supporters is make our opponents ears bleed. If you were playing, would you give up?
Don't run away. f***** arc up!!
PS Too old to run away ... maybe just a shuffle away.
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Yes, exactly.
I woke up again one night again last week replaying all those first half misses against Geelong, and then those moments of sheer bad luck like the goal that wasn't, the toe-poke, the frees not paid.
And that rolled in to nightmares of the final minutes from the drawn one, with Collingwood working it around the outer wing to undo all that good work.
So many if only's.
The bounce. Even that ball that deflected almost to Blake's feet in the final minute. We deserved the footy gods to smile on us and allow him to pick it up and snap a point.
But it didn't happen.
What makes it now so much worse is that we now look wobbly and look like we mightn't get a third chance.
That suddenly makes those two missed opportunities so much worse.
So Yes I am traumatised by them.
Watching us lose today was so painful, not because we lost a H&A game.
But rather the steadily growing all-consuming realisation of just how massive those two GF "losses" were.
I woke up again one night again last week replaying all those first half misses against Geelong, and then those moments of sheer bad luck like the goal that wasn't, the toe-poke, the frees not paid.
And that rolled in to nightmares of the final minutes from the drawn one, with Collingwood working it around the outer wing to undo all that good work.
So many if only's.
The bounce. Even that ball that deflected almost to Blake's feet in the final minute. We deserved the footy gods to smile on us and allow him to pick it up and snap a point.
But it didn't happen.
What makes it now so much worse is that we now look wobbly and look like we mightn't get a third chance.
That suddenly makes those two missed opportunities so much worse.
So Yes I am traumatised by them.
Watching us lose today was so painful, not because we lost a H&A game.
But rather the steadily growing all-consuming realisation of just how massive those two GF "losses" were.
The rest of Australia can wander mask-free, socialise, eat out, no curfews, no zoning, no police rings of steel, no illogical inconsistent rules.
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
They can even WATCH LIVE FOOTY!
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Post 09 I felt pumped for the upcoming season. We had a couple of things to work on which we seemingly did over the pre-season and the thought was that we'd be unstoppable in 2010.
Post gf1, i thought it was ours.
Post gf2, i could barely give a rats arse about footy. Little change in personnel that could effect our 2011 result. Our players had reached their capacity in terms of improvement- just a matter of consistency which we'd almost mastered too. . Other teams with younger players who keep getting better and better with experience. We on the other hand sticking to tried and tested.
Post gf1, i thought it was ours.
Post gf2, i could barely give a rats arse about footy. Little change in personnel that could effect our 2011 result. Our players had reached their capacity in terms of improvement- just a matter of consistency which we'd almost mastered too. . Other teams with younger players who keep getting better and better with experience. We on the other hand sticking to tried and tested.
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That sums the emotion up perfectly Enrico...that is the torture in every loss from now until we win the big one ;-(Enrico_Misso wrote: Watching us lose today was so painful, not because we lost a H&A game.
But rather the steadily growing all-consuming realisation of just how massive those two GF "losses" were.
Never take a backward step even to gain momentum.....
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"We have beauty in our captain and we have a true leader in our coach. Our time will come"
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"We have beauty in our captain and we have a true leader in our coach. Our time will come"
Thinline.Post 09 Grand final.
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