Girl who can't be named on 60 minutes
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Plugger - she was a well known ratbag before she hit the headlines so YES alarm bells should have been ding donging loud and proud and YES in the circumstances where she was known as scurrilous, and young, and the given gravity of the allegations, journalists covering the story were under a much greater obligation than they ordinarily would be to at the very least verify sources, double check facts and cross t's and dot i's.
It ain't rocket science.
And they didn't need to ask her directly at first. Plenty of people would have gone some way to substantiating the non-truth of her allegations.
And in those circumstances she should have been well open to questioning.
It ain't rocket science.
And they didn't need to ask her directly at first. Plenty of people would have gone some way to substantiating the non-truth of her allegations.
And in those circumstances she should have been well open to questioning.
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Can't check about miscarriages or stillborns, doctors or Hospitals wont give out that information due to confidentiality.
Who was that psychologist tosser from Sydney whom worked with the NRl and was saying that they were ahead of the AFl and this case proved it?
More lack of professionalism from a so called "expert".
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Who was that psychologist tosser from Sydney whom worked with the NRl and was saying that they were ahead of the AFl and this case proved it?
More lack of professionalism from a so called "expert".
Pathetic
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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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Maybe the medical profession won't/can't release that info, but if the media is going to run with this explosive story, that has the potential to ruin many lives, perhaps they could insist the girl herself provides some proof.joffaboy wrote:Can't check about miscarriages or stillborns, doctors or Hospitals wont give out that information due to confidentiality.
Who was that psychologist tosser from Sydney whom worked with the NRl and was saying that they were ahead of the AFl and this case proved it?
More lack of professionalism from a so called "expert".
Pathetic
They could certainly check out her story of a modeling gig at an Adelaide Convention, conveniently at the same time as the Saints played over there.
This would give a very good indication of the girl's credibility.
Sorry but the media can't just hide behind doctor/patient confidentiality here.
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Dont be sorry - not defendign the gutter crawlers like Riley or O'Brien, if they can't verify they shouldn't publish, just stating the facts thats all.Dr Spaceman wrote:Sorry but the media can't just hide behind doctor/patient confidentiality here.
I am loving how these moral arbiters have been bitten hard on their collective arses by their sloppy journalism and condecending finger pointing.
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There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
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As I said before, these journo's remind me of the final scene out of "And Justice for All" where Al Pacino points out that the prosecuting lawyers we're so excited that they we're going after a judge that they forgot their briefcases.
These journo's we're so excited about nailing some footballers and a club that they did no research in their quest for sensationalism.
Yet as Hunch says, the only thing that makes these guy's special is that they can kick a football, wonder if this story would have even made it to the media if it was just someone's local football club that was involved.
Would it have been any less tragic, no, just not news worthy.
These journo's we're so excited about nailing some footballers and a club that they did no research in their quest for sensationalism.
Yet as Hunch says, the only thing that makes these guy's special is that they can kick a football, wonder if this story would have even made it to the media if it was just someone's local football club that was involved.
Would it have been any less tragic, no, just not news worthy.
Except for the sanity nothing much has been lost.
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Have they though?joffaboy wrote:Dont be sorry - not defendign the gutter crawlers like Riley or O'Brien, if they can't verify they shouldn't publish, just stating the facts thats all.Dr Spaceman wrote:Sorry but the media can't just hide behind doctor/patient confidentiality here.
I am loving how these moral arbiters have been bitten hard on their collective arses by their sloppy journalism and condecending finger pointing.
To be fair, Robyn Riley actually saw the girl at her media outlet when she turned up looking pregnant (wearing a belly suit perhaps, who knows)
That part of the story isn't what offends, it's the assumption of truth regarding paternity, and the facts surrounding the initial meeting, and the general portrayal of the football player and club.
That part of the story isn't what offends, it's the assumption of truth regarding paternity, and the facts surrounding the initial meeting, and the general portrayal of the football player and club.
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On legal advice, Sunday's segment "Breaking the Code" about an ongoing AFL sex scandal is not available on the website.
Now Ch Nine go to ground.......
so maybe the Adelaide Techincal hitch wasn't that technical as assumed by many....
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Dunno about that.saintbrat wrote:On legal advice, Sunday's segment "Breaking the Code" about an ongoing AFL sex scandal is not available on the website.
Now Ch Nine go to ground.......
so maybe the Adelaide Techincal hitch wasn't that technical as assumed by many....
Kimi tweeted to her thousands of loyal fans that there was a technical hitch and directed them to a website so they wouldn't miss "her story".
Now she wouldn't lie; surely!
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intersting that the tweeting hasn't resumed though....
they forgot abuut you tube etc.... It's already out there...
they forgot abuut you tube etc.... It's already out there...
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There's many phony sites out there.matrix wrote:so the twitter site/name called not duthie isnt her??
as whoever it is has asked if there is a vid site to upload that is annon
im guessing its a different idiot??
The two most recent tweets on what I believe is her official site were on Sunday:
EXCLUSIVE: At last - My story. My life. All will be revealed tonight with @TheLizHayes on @60minutes_nine at 7.30pm.
Adel viewers: Technical issue due to ratings, NOT legal issue. I repeat TECHNICAL. Head to the @60minutes_nine site to see the full story.
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The entire thing is just amazing .... and I cannot believe what a bunny Nixon is ... Did he have any idea she was gonna say what she did about him on Sunday about them maybe being together?
Wonder what his wife is feeling.
Collateral damage!
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Wonder what his wife is feeling.
Collateral damage!
Headline:
Young girl chases footballers for a good time!
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Have always thought though the whole saga that this slapper was after two things , fame and money !
How she has them , would like to see dal and roo sue her for all she's got. She's admitted that she lied about every thing , so surely they could get something out of her !
Also she seem to be a sociopath , so i'm sure at some stage of her future life , she be suicidal , homicidal , certifliable , felonious and always in denial .
p.s. to the world ; give this woman a wide berth , getting to close will only get you burn't
How she has them , would like to see dal and roo sue her for all she's got. She's admitted that she lied about every thing , so surely they could get something out of her !
Also she seem to be a sociopath , so i'm sure at some stage of her future life , she be suicidal , homicidal , certifliable , felonious and always in denial .
p.s. to the world ; give this woman a wide berth , getting to close will only get you burn't
Why would the players want to start this all over again?mr six o'clock wrote:Have always thought though the whole saga that this slapper was after two things , fame and money !
How she has them , would like to see dal and roo sue her for all she's got. She's admitted that she lied about every thing , so surely they could get something out of her !
Also she seem to be a sociopath , so i'm sure at some stage of her future life , she be suicidal , homicidal , certifliable , felonious and always in denial .
p.s. to the world ; give this woman a wide berth , getting to close will only get you burn't
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I agree, Why would anyone want to keep it going.plugger66 wrote:Why would the players want to start this all over again?mr six o'clock wrote:Have always thought though the whole saga that this slapper was after two things , fame and money !
How she has them , would like to see dal and roo sue her for all she's got. She's admitted that she lied about every thing , so surely they could get something out of her !
Also she seem to be a sociopath , so i'm sure at some stage of her future life , she be suicidal , homicidal , certifliable , felonious and always in denial .
p.s. to the world ; give this woman a wide berth , getting to close will only get you burn't
I think The 60 minutes revelations should not be seen as the truth but as a full stop.
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Where's that video MOFW?manoffewwords wrote:I agree, Why would anyone want to keep it going.plugger66 wrote:Why would the players want to start this all over again?mr six o'clock wrote:Have always thought though the whole saga that this slapper was after two things , fame and money !
How she has them , would like to see dal and roo sue her for all she's got. She's admitted that she lied about every thing , so surely they could get something out of her !
Also she seem to be a sociopath , so i'm sure at some stage of her future life , she be suicidal , homicidal , certifliable , felonious and always in denial .
p.s. to the world ; give this woman a wide berth , getting to close will only get you burn't
I think The 60 minutes revelations should not be seen as the truth but as a full stop.
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Weren't you the muppet trumpeting the explosive existence of a damaging gay video that would tip the football world on its head?manoffewwords wrote:What video?
Apologies if you weren't.
I just think it's important to 'out' gossip spreading muck early.
Lessons learned and all that...
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This is EXACTLY what the media does. And that's not cycnicism, that's what they will TELL YOU is the level of rigour necessary in the modern marketplace.Mr Magic wrote:So plugger does that mean the media is entitled to write any story they like as long as they are acting on information from a 'source'?
They don't need to verify what the source tells them?
So if I'm a 16 year old girl and I get a 27 year old friend to tell my Principal that my Father/Mother/Older Brother/Older Sister/Older cousin is belting me, the school doesn't need to ascertain if the allegation has any truth?
That's the point I'm trying to make - how could this whole saga, based on lies, end up going for so long with NOBODY checking anything out?
Everybody involved took the word of this 16/17 year old, whom the school at least were aware was having 'difficulties', over the word of everybody else.
Why?
It's enough to successfully defend most lawsuits. Until the public's choice of material becomes more discerning, why would a paper ask more than that?
If there were consequences such as diminished readership when they got it wrong, you can bet editors would demand more rigour. When the bottom line is that first to air/print/web gets a measurable win, rigour is a function of risk.
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