Rober Walls Sainst Recruiting Terrible last 5 yrs...

Teflon · Post: # 1045571Post **Teflon** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 8:53pm

And then says.....why havent they drafted the likes of Beams/Sidebottom?

Does this guy have mental issues? What a ferkin moron.

Followed by Tim Lane -"I cant see where St Kilda's improvement will come from".

This is the guy who declared Geelong finished LAST NAB CUP?........does anyone in the AFL media boys club EVER hold these morons accountable? Just once does anyone perhaps mention they do some homework/check facts? FFS.......theyre supposed to be "special comments"......

Shyte.

st_Trav_ofWA · Fri 04 Mar 2011 8:55pm

serioulsy i dont gt these commentators making such big statments this early in the season ...

Buckets · Post: # 1045575Post **Buckets** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 8:56pm

They just say what ever they think and then recant later on. Hell Lane has the biggest moronic call of the last few years when he claimed we were seeing the end of the Cats in the game against the doggies in which they then proceeded to prove him wrong to the whole Football community.

st_Trav_ofWA · Fri 04 Mar 2011 8:57pm

such terrible drafting over the last 5 years but we were within a kick of two grand finals

Teflon · Post: # 1045578Post **Teflon** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 8:57pm

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:serioulsy i dont gt these commentators making such big statments this early in the season ...

They'll be back on us when we win Rd 1.....Walls will be "I think this side can go all the way..." and Lane will be admiring our toughness.....

Id just like someone to pipe up with " 2 weeks ago they were duds?"

Who is Tim Lane blowin at 10to keep his job as a poor mans Denis Commetti? He musy be awful good on his knees Tim...

noob · Post: # 1045579Post **noob** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 8:57pm

well there isn't many players that have made match winning performances (that have been recruited) in the last 5-7 years. I only can think of Gilbert and Jones. The rest have been recycled.

Teflon · Post: # 1045582Post **Teflon** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 8:59pm

noob wrote:well there isn't many players that have made match winning performances (that have been recruited) in the last 5-7 years. I only can think of Gilbert and Jones. The rest have been recycled.

Do you judge recruiting performance on the teams overall performance or individuals?

BallBanger · Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:03pm

Agree, good developing kids has been ignored for immediate success for tooo long

Cairnsman · Post: # 1045589Post **Cairnsman** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:04pm

Walls = Hinch

lurker#134 · Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:05pm

noob wrote:well there isn't many players that have made match winning performances (that have been recruited) in the last 5-7 years. I only can think of Gilbert and Jones. The rest have been recycled.

Jack Steven vs Geelong H&A last year.

st_Trav_ofWA · Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:07pm

lurker#134 wrote:
noob wrote:well there isn't many players that have made match winning performances (that have been recruited) in the last 5-7 years. I only can think of Gilbert and Jones. The rest have been recycled.
Jack Steven vs Geelong H&A last year.

big ben gave us a draw last year

noob · Post: # 1045594Post **noob** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:07pm

I judge the recruiting performance failure to produce class footballers. We haven't had a kid for a very long long time were we think he has a big future. Last few years we've been rating players on 'potential'. Personally I think our recruiting on the young have been poor but our recycled players have been valuable.. but I credit Ross for us getting to those grand finals with the team we've had.

st_Trav_ofWA · Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:09pm

noob wrote:I judge the recruiting performance failure to produce class footballers. We haven't had a kid for a very long long time were we think he has a big future. Last few years we've been rating players on 'potential'. Personally I think our recruiting on the young have been poor but our recycled players have been valuable.. but I credit Ross for us getting to those grand finals with the team we've had.

bit hard to draft a Scully or a Swallow with pick 16 though

noob · Post: # 1045598Post **noob** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:09pm

Jack Steven is still there abouts but im not sure how far he will go with limited time in the 1s. Although I must say I don't know what his role will be in the team in a couple of years time as a forward or part of the midfield?? Sorry I did forget about McEvoy I think he will be a player.

meher baba · Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:10pm

I can't stand Walls and Lane, but it is true that we haven't done well out of the draft. Although Armo looked pretty good again tonight. But Lynch doesn't look anything like a first round draft pick going into his third season. And Johnson and Simpkin don't look like anything much.

So far, Armo looks like the one to step up for me. Otherwise, except where there are injuries, I reckon it's going to be same old, same old in 2011.

Buckets · Post: # 1045601Post **Buckets** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:10pm

noob wrote:I judge the recruiting performance failure to produce class footballers. We haven't had a kid for a very long long time were we think he has a big future. Last few years we've been rating players on 'potential'. Personally I think our recruiting on the young have been poor but our recycled players have been valuable.. but I credit Ross for us getting to those grand finals with the team we've had.

Am I right in suggesting that Ben has been the last top 10 pick that we have had???? The rest would all be 20 and above?

st_Trav_ofWA · Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:13pm

Buckets wrote:
noob wrote:I judge the recruiting performance failure to produce class footballers. We haven't had a kid for a very long long time were we think he has a big future. Last few years we've been rating players on 'potential'. Personally I think our recruiting on the young have been poor but our recycled players have been valuable.. but I credit Ross for us getting to those grand finals with the team we've had.
Am I right in suggesting that Ben has been the last top 10 pick that we have had???? The rest would all be 20 and above?

nah i think Lynch was top 20 ..

noob · Post: # 1045606Post **noob** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:13pm

Yes that's true St Trav.... I don't know. Maybe we've just been unlucky with the recruiting.

Buckets · Post: # 1045608Post **Buckets** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:14pm

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
Buckets wrote:
noob wrote:I judge the recruiting performance failure to produce class footballers. We haven't had a kid for a very long long time were we think he has a big future. Last few years we've been rating players on 'potential'. Personally I think our recruiting on the young have been poor but our recycled players have been valuable.. but I credit Ross for us getting to those grand finals with the team we've had.
Am I right in suggesting that Ben has been the last top 10 pick that we have had???? The rest would all be 20 and above?
nah i think Lynch was top 20 ..

He recruited as a KPP? If so that means that the 2 highest picks in the last 4 years are KPP who take longer to mature?

noob · Post: # 1045609Post **noob** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:15pm

I had played a lot of junior footy against tom lynch till probably about 16s-17s didn't realise he'd get so high to be honest. Hope he proves me wrong

PJ · Post: # 1045612Post PJ » Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:17pm

When are people going to stop rating players as having failed when they haven't debuted yet? FFFFFFFFS. Yep they're all duds - haven't played much but hell that never stopped a good back bencher from sticking the boots in.

When they've played 50 games you can measure their potential - get it Friday's F***wit!!!

st_Trav_ofWA · Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:18pm

noob wrote:Yes that's true St Trav.... I don't know. Maybe we've just been unlucky with the recruiting.

im not too sure we got alot of guys who were drafted with the focus of playing in their third year guys like Winmar was never going to play in his first year ... i actually thing our kids are comming along nicely with many of them bashing down the door for selection .... remember it wasnt that long ago we had the likes of Ferguson Sweeney Mcgough Birss and Brooks all sitting in the ressies doing nothing to push for selection ....

meher baba · Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:20pm

PJ wrote:When are people going to stop rating players as having failed when they haven't debuted yet? FFFFFFFFS. Yep they're all duds - haven't played much but hell that never stopped a good back bencher from sticking the boots in.

When they've played 50 games you can measure their potential - get it Friday's F***wit!!!

I think with Lynch the word is "if" they play 50 games. I doubt he will. Hope I'm wrong.

degruch · Post: # 1045618Post **degruch** » Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:21pm

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
noob wrote:Yes that's true St Trav.... I don't know. Maybe we've just been unlucky with the recruiting.
im not too sure we got alot of guys who were drafted with the focus of playing in their third year guys like Winmar was never going to play in his first year ... i actually thing our kids are comming along nicely with many of them bashing down the door for selection .... remember it wasnt that long ago we had the likes of Ferguson Sweeney Mcgough Birss and Brooks all sitting in the ressies doing nothing to push for selection ....

All that is true. I have more idea than Wallsy...a pre-season throw away line is the fairest summation of that comment I can provide. He'll regret it in the morning.

st_Trav_ofWA · Fri 04 Mar 2011 9:21pm

meher baba wrote:
PJ wrote:When are people going to stop rating players as having failed when they haven't debuted yet? FFFFFFFFS. Yep they're all duds - haven't played much but hell that never stopped a good back bencher from sticking the boots in.

When they've played 50 games you can measure their potential - get it Friday's F***wit!!!
I think with Lynch the word is "if" they play 50 games. I doubt he will. Hope I'm wrong.

again thats the gamble you take with the draft