Draw in GF I now down the memory hole....

[SaintPav]

Ok, I'm setting myself up here for some criticism but it seems the clear victory in GF II means the draw is now well and truly forgotten by many filth fans.

Had one filth supporter say to me on Friday night that his team were by far the superior team of the year. He then went on to say how our window had now closed and that they will be up for the next four years and that we needed to get rid of Milne and Kosi who never perform in big games. He prefaced this by saying that he didn't mean to rub it in! Tossa! I reminded him in no uncertain terms about the draw and that he should stick to talking about his own team and that he was being a very poor winner.

I overheard another conversation in a lift at work yesterday where this dorky guy was talking about how dominant the Pies were in 2010 and had smashed all and sundry. I felt like turning around and reminding him of the drawn GF and that they were lucky not to lose.

Don't get me wrong, the filth were the best team of 2010 and deserved their flag in the end but there was a drawn GF and there was an element of luck there which they seem to be forgetting. It looks like the drawn GF is now down the memory hole with a lot of filth fans.

[chook23]

The draw will virtually be forgotten.

BJ mark the same...the comeback etc


Premiers go all the spoils.

That is what hurts so much.

[SaintPav]

The draw will virtually be forgotten.

BJ mark the same...the comeback etc


Premiers go all the spoils.

That is what hurts so much.

I know Chook mate. I know. It very f---ked.

[St Lenny]

Winners are grinners

[Thinline]

I was there. I will never forget it.

I will also swear until I'm blue in the face that two sad bounces of the ball were all it took for the Pies to get over the line.

Sometimes you need luck.

[SainterK]

I still maintain cakewalks generally don't take two weeks

[Dr Spaceman]

I still maintain cakewalks generally don't take two weeks

What the hell is a "cakewalk" anyway!

[Jewellzy]

The thing that irks me the most about the draw, was the Cloke goal to put the Pies up by a point.

BJ was in prime position to take the match-saving mark. Dawes was heading towards BJ ready to make a contest. BJ braces for the contact and Dawes goes down like a weak POS. Shaw comes over the top, ball spills to Dawes who is still on his ass. Handball to Cloke and the rest was history.

That ball could've spilled anywhere. But it went straight to a bloke who was out-muscled and out of the contest. Makes me angry everytime I think about it.

[doggerel]

I still maintain cakewalks generally don't take two weeks

What the hell is a "cakewalk" anyway!

Apparently some sort of dance done by black african americans during slavery times, with the best dancer awarded a cake as a prize.

[suss]

The thing that irks me the most about the draw, was the Cloke goal to put the Pies up by a point.

BJ was in prime position to take the match-saving mark. Dawes was heading towards BJ ready to make a contest. BJ braces for the contact and Dawes goes down like a weak POS. Shaw comes over the top, ball spills to Dawes who is still on his ass. Handball to Cloke and the rest was history.

That ball could've spilled anywhere. But it went straight to a bloke who was out-muscled and out of the contest. Makes me angry everytime I think about it.

Yeah, that particular goal burns me too. If you look at each goal in context, this was a cheapie. There were a couple of chances to kill the contest as it came down the ground but we let them get a kick to the goal square too easily. In hindsight, maybe BJ should've punched it through, maybe there should have been a third man up - but whatever happened, I can't help but feel that this was the one that cost us a premiership.

[bozza1980]

Ok, I'm setting myself up here for some criticism but it seems the clear victory in GF II means the draw is now well and truly forgotten by many filth fans.

Had one filth supporter say to me on Friday night that his team were by far the superior team of the year. He then went on to say how our window had now closed and that they will be up for the next four years and that we needed to get rid of Milne and Kosi who never perform in big games. He prefaced this by saying that he didn't mean to rub it in! Tossa! I reminded him in no uncertain terms about the draw and that he should stick to talking about his own team and that he was being a very poor winner.

I overheard another conversation in a lift at work yesterday where this dorky guy was talking about how dominant the Pies were in 2010 and had smashed all and sundry. I felt like turning around and reminding him of the drawn GF and that they were lucky not to lose.

Don't get me wrong, the filth were the best team of 2010 and deserved their flag in the end but there was a drawn GF and there was an element of luck there which they seem to be forgetting. It looks like the drawn GF is now down the memory hole with a lot of filth fans.

Unfortunately, winners are grinners and losers can please themselves.

At the end of the day when people think back to 2010 the ease with which we were despatched in the replay overrides the memory for some that there was a drawn GF and that by extension we were pretty close to claiming the ultimate prize.

As for our window being shut, this has been said and written every year since 2006. We have played in 6 of the last 7 finals series, 5 of the last 7 prelim finals and were leading in time on of the last quarter in the past two seasons GF.

We are close, and people can write us off at their peril, we will be their again when the whips are cracking come the business end of next year.

[stinger]

Ok, I'm setting myself up here for some criticism but it seems the clear victory in GF II means the draw is now well and truly forgotten by many filth fans.

Had one filth supporter say to me on Friday night that his team were by far the superior team of the year. He then went on to say how our window had now closed and that they will be up for the next four years and that we needed to get rid of Milne and Kosi who never perform in big games. He prefaced this by saying that he didn't mean to rub it in! Tossa! I reminded him in no uncertain terms about the draw and that he should stick to talking about his own team and that he was being a very poor winner.

I overheard another conversation in a lift at work yesterday where this dorky guy was talking about how dominant the Pies were in 2010 and had smashed all and sundry. I felt like turning around and reminding him of the drawn GF and that they were lucky not to lose.

Don't get me wrong, the filth were the best team of 2010 and deserved their flag in the end but there was a drawn GF and there was an element of luck there which they seem to be forgetting. It looks like the drawn GF is now down the memory hole with a lot of filth fans.

from memory we played the filth swine 5 times in 2010.....for an even score.....two wins each plus a draw....sure..one win was in the pre-season cup...but a win is a win is a win..... pity is we lost the only one to really count....

[St. Luke]

No doubt in my mind that the drawn GF video in most filth supporters collections will go missing! they were GAWN if the game went another minute - it took them two attempts to win it!

[saintspremiers]

We were lucky to draw the first GF.

Don't kid yourself children, the Pies should've had us stitched up at half time.

[Dr Spaceman]

We were lucky to draw the first GF.

Don't kid yourself children, the Pies should've had us stitched up at half time.

What you say is correct saintspremiers.

However that's the point. They should have had us stitched up at half time. They nonetheless had a very good lead. They were the best team of 2010 and had everything to play for. And yet there almost blew it.

So they were nonetheless "lucky".

[SaintPav]

We were lucky to draw the first GF.

Don't kid yourself children, the Pies should've had us stitched up at half time.

The game goes for four quarters. They were lucky not to have lost it in the dying stages. Don't you kid yourself.

[Mr Magic]

We were lucky to draw the first GF.

Don't kid yourself children, the Pies should've had us stitched up at half time.

What you say is correct saintspremiers.

However that's the point. They should have had us stitched up at half time. They nonetheless had a very good lead. They were the best team of 2010 and had everything to play for. And yet there almost blew it.

So they were nonetheless "lucky".

Well I beg to differ.
I also wsa at the game and I remember it differently

I recal that they pounded us early in the first anf that we gradually worked our way back into the game at quarter time.
I recall them doing all teh attacking in teh second quarter adn us 'absorbing the pressure' as much as possible to be 24 points down at Half Time.
I recall us doing most of the attacking in teh third quarter adn reducing the margin.
I recall us actually hitting the front late in teh last quarter.

It all depends on your perspective.
I would humbly suggest that most people (Filth included) think we would have won the game if extra time had been played.
If we were so comprehensively outplayed, why would that be?

Maybe someone should tell Muhammed Ali that he was 'lucky' to win the 'Rumble in the Jungle' against George Foreman.
Afterall, Foreman did all the attacking and Ali just lay against the ropes absorbing the blows until Foreman got tired.
Surely that's a win for Foreman?

[SaintPav]

We were lucky to draw the first GF.

Don't kid yourself children, the Pies should've had us stitched up at half time.

We won 2/12 quarters and we lost it in the second. Should of. Could of. We should have won last year too but we didn't.

[spert]

Yep..coulda, might have, shoulda..but in the end..didn't.

[matrix]

ill remember the draw

i have the black tshirt they released....cheers to maxstar for that!

[Thinline]

We were lucky to draw the first GF.

Don't kid yourself children, the Pies should've had us stitched up at half time.

What you say is correct saintspremiers.

However that's the point. They should have had us stitched up at half time. They nonetheless had a very good lead. They were the best team of 2010 and had everything to play for. And yet there almost blew it.

So they were nonetheless "lucky".

Well I beg to differ.
I also wsa at the game and I remember it differently

I recal that they pounded us early in the first anf that we gradually worked our way back into the game at quarter time.
I recall them doing all teh attacking in teh second quarter adn us 'absorbing the pressure' as much as possible to be 24 points down at Half Time.
I recall us doing most of the attacking in teh third quarter adn reducing the margin.
I recall us actually hitting the front late in teh last quarter.

It all depends on your perspective.
I would humbly suggest that most people (Filth included) think we would have won the game if extra time had been played.
If we were so comprehensively outplayed, why would that be?

Maybe someone should tell Muhammed Ali that he was 'lucky' to win the 'Rumble in the Jungle' against George Foreman.
Afterall, Foreman did all the attacking and Ali just lay against the ropes absorbing the blows until Foreman got tired.
Surely that's a win for Foreman?

We were down by a goal at qr time. They surged. We rallied. We won double the clearances in the first qr too. People seem to forget that.

Second qr was abysmal by us. They were red hot.

Second half we pretty much dominated (in as much as you can say that in a close struggle), particularly the third qr where we kicked 3.3 to 0.5.

All in all a very even contest decided in the end by a couple of rogue bounces - Roo's not dribbling through, Haye's kick not sitting up for Milne - and a fall of the ball so ridiculously fortuitous (when Dawes was bumped out of the contest easily by BJ only for the ball to bobble into his hands while he was on the ground and he offloads to Cloke for a goal) that thinking about it makes me wanna puke.

We were VERY UNLUCKY not to win. They were VERY LUCKY to leave with a draw.

It's generous to afford Collingwood an even share of the game if you think about the game's ebbs and flows.

Those are the facts of the matter.

BUT kudos to the Pies for backing up a week later. Kudos for them winning the thing. Even so, completely disingenuous to suggest luck played no part.

[markp]

I still maintain cakewalks generally don't take two weeks

What the hell is a "cakewalk" anyway!

It's what happens after a few days to someone if they don't bother to pull down their trousers to relieve themselves (or bathe) for a few days.

Most common among filth supporters.

[saintspremiers]

We were lucky to draw the first GF.

Don't kid yourself children, the Pies should've had us stitched up at half time.

What you say is correct saintspremiers.

However that's the point. They should have had us stitched up at half time. They nonetheless had a very good lead. They were the best team of 2010 and had everything to play for. And yet there almost blew it.

So they were nonetheless "lucky".

Well I beg to differ.
I also wsa at the game and I remember it differently

I recal that they pounded us early in the first anf that we gradually worked our way back into the game at quarter time.
I recall them doing all teh attacking in teh second quarter adn us 'absorbing the pressure' as much as possible to be 24 points down at Half Time.
I recall us doing most of the attacking in teh third quarter adn reducing the margin.
I recall us actually hitting the front late in teh last quarter.

It all depends on your perspective.
I would humbly suggest that most people (Filth included) think we would have won the game if extra time had been played.
If we were so comprehensively outplayed, why would that be?

Maybe someone should tell Muhammed Ali that he was 'lucky' to win the 'Rumble in the Jungle' against George Foreman.
Afterall, Foreman did all the attacking and Ali just lay against the ropes absorbing the blows until Foreman got tired.
Surely that's a win for Foreman?

We were down by a goal at qr time. They surged. We rallied. We won double the clearances in the first qr too. People seem to forget that.

Second qr was abysmal by us. They were red hot.

Second half we pretty much dominated (in as much as you can say that in a close struggle), particularly the third qr where we kicked 3.3 to 0.5.

All in all a very even contest decided in the end by a couple of rogue bounces - Roo's not dribbling through, Haye's kick not sitting up for Milne - and a fall of the ball so ridiculously fortuitous (when Dawes was bumped out of the contest easily by BJ only for the ball to bobble into his hands while he was on the ground and he offloads to Cloke for a goal) that thinking about it makes me wanna puke.

We were VERY UNLUCKY not to win. They were VERY LUCKY to leave with a draw.

It's generous to afford Collingwood an even share of the game if you think about the game's ebbs and flows.

Those are the facts of the matter.

BUT kudos to the Pies for backing up a week later. Kudos for them winning the thing. Even so, completely disingenuous to suggest luck played no part.

WTF?

This is one of the most biased posts on the forum!

We were VERY UNLUCKY not win my arse!

If we were so good, why did we let the ball go forward into the Pies half for them to score TWICE after BJ put us a goal up?

In nearly every case, when we are 6 points up with 5 minutes to go, we control and WIN a game of footy.

[SaintPav]

We were lucky to draw the first GF.

Don't kid yourself children, the Pies should've had us stitched up at half time.

What you say is correct saintspremiers.

However that's the point. They should have had us stitched up at half time. They nonetheless had a very good lead. They were the best team of 2010 and had everything to play for. And yet there almost blew it.

So they were nonetheless "lucky".

Well I beg to differ.
I also wsa at the game and I remember it differently

I recal that they pounded us early in the first anf that we gradually worked our way back into the game at quarter time.
I recall them doing all teh attacking in teh second quarter adn us 'absorbing the pressure' as much as possible to be 24 points down at Half Time.
I recall us doing most of the attacking in teh third quarter adn reducing the margin.
I recall us actually hitting the front late in teh last quarter.

It all depends on your perspective.
I would humbly suggest that most people (Filth included) think we would have won the game if extra time had been played.
If we were so comprehensively outplayed, why would that be?

Maybe someone should tell Muhammed Ali that he was 'lucky' to win the 'Rumble in the Jungle' against George Foreman.
Afterall, Foreman did all the attacking and Ali just lay against the ropes absorbing the blows until Foreman got tired.
Surely that's a win for Foreman?

We were down by a goal at qr time. They surged. We rallied. We won double the clearances in the first qr too. People seem to forget that.

Second qr was abysmal by us. They were red hot.

Second half we pretty much dominated (in as much as you can say that in a close struggle), particularly the third qr where we kicked 3.3 to 0.5.

All in all a very even contest decided in the end by a couple of rogue bounces - Roo's not dribbling through, Haye's kick not sitting up for Milne - and a fall of the ball so ridiculously fortuitous (when Dawes was bumped out of the contest easily by BJ only for the ball to bobble into his hands while he was on the ground and he offloads to Cloke for a goal) that thinking about it makes me wanna puke.

We were VERY UNLUCKY not to win. They were VERY LUCKY to leave with a draw.

It's generous to afford Collingwood an even share of the game if you think about the game's ebbs and flows.

Those are the facts of the matter.

BUT kudos to the Pies for backing up a week later. Kudos for them winning the thing. Even so, completely disingenuous to suggest luck played no part.

WTF?

This is one of the most biased posts on the forum!

We were VERY UNLUCKY not win my arse!

If we were so good, why did we let the ball go forward into the Pies half for them to score TWICE after BJ put us a goal up?

In nearly every case, when we are 6 points up with 5 minutes to go, we control and WIN a game of footy.

Probably refering to a bounce or two that couldn't go our way but I guess you're right. They had it all over us an we were so lucky to draw and the result the following week confirmed in your own mind were we are at and were we deserve to be.

[Winmarvellous]

The draw is what it is. A good game with no real relevance anymore. Collingwood backed up and smashed us the following week. We folded meekly. The fact we played to a standstill the week before is pretty much irrelevant. As thy love to say during the season "One week at a time". We were up for one, not the next when it counted even more.