If we recruit Fev, I will burn my membership and never watch another St Kilda game. I would rather lose another GF.Saintersss wrote:I know his attitude sucks, and he is a cancer, blah blah blah. But he is the only decent player that we will be able to get without giving up a first 22 player.
I also believe that if he plays with the club he loves and comes back to Melbourne, his attitude may improve.
Lets face it, if the pain of last year couldn't motivate the players, what is this year going to do. I wasn't big for radical changes after the pain of last year, but I believe we need to do something big in this off season.
*Provided Brisbane pay part of his salary cap, so that we can fit him in.
Kosi to the ruck, Gardiner to retire (with the new interchange rules, we just can't carry Gardiner only playing 50% of gametime)
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Can anyone serioisly imagine Kosi, Milne and the Fevolution in the same forward line. It would provide good laugh value for the socail club while drinking a couple of pots. Lets recruit Aka while were at it.degruch wrote:Why? We've got some kids to try, one's who aren't cancer off-field and selfish wankers on it.Tom_Sainter wrote:I think risk is requiredjroberts:) wrote:Risky
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The point of getting an actual full forward would be so we don't have the liability that is Kosi constantly lumbering around the forward line 15m behind his opponent. Kosi is strictly a backup ruckman/pinch hitting forward now, we can not rely on him as a permanent target.SaintPav wrote:Can anyone serioisly imagine Kosi, Milne and the Fevolution in the same forward line. It would provide good laugh value for the socail club while drinking a couple of pots. Lets recruit Aka while were at it.
If we had another reliable goalkicker at FF then Roo would get less attention, he could push up the ground more to help the defence and our midfield would be more confident bringing the ball in quickly.
FF - 80 goals
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Milne - 45
Schneider - 30
Goddard - 25
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So are you saying you want Fev in a St Kilda jumper next year?mad saint guy wrote:The point of getting an actual full forward would be so we don't have the liability that is Kosi constantly lumbering around the forward line 15m behind his opponent. Kosi is strictly a backup ruckman/pinch hitting forward now, we can not rely on him as a permanent target.SaintPav wrote:Can anyone serioisly imagine Kosi, Milne and the Fevolution in the same forward line. It would provide good laugh value for the socail club while drinking a couple of pots. Lets recruit Aka while were at it.
If we had another reliable goalkicker at FF then Roo would get less attention, he could push up the ground more to help the defence and our midfield would be more confident bringing the ball in quickly.
FF - 80 goals
Riewoldt - 50
Milne - 45
Schneider - 30
Goddard - 25
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50-50 on this idea. If we had've gotten him last year, he could've made the difference. I know he had to get out of town after the Brownlow s*** but..
Once the lions started losing every week, it made it harder for him to get a kick, let alone kick a bag of goals. So the presssure built up on him and the team, and they cracked in the end.
He would be a worth a punt I reckon, though I'd love to see the club go all out for Sherman.
Once the lions started losing every week, it made it harder for him to get a kick, let alone kick a bag of goals. So the presssure built up on him and the team, and they cracked in the end.
He would be a worth a punt I reckon, though I'd love to see the club go all out for Sherman.
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Fevola is not well in the head.
Forget it.
Forget it.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
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I'm open to the idea. Fev to lose some kgs over summer. Gardi to retire. Kosi and Mcevoy to play full time in the ruck. Kosi to use the pre-season to focus on ruck training. I think it will re-invent him. His body has outgrown the CHF/CHB that he was when he turned up to the club. A year at FF this year has not given us a great return despite him playing 'his role well'??
Despite this waffle, I believe that Fev will stay at the Lions anyway. Gardi may or may not retire, McEvoy will get better and Kosi will play the same role as this year with the same success. Not keen on same! We need to improve! The pies will only get better next year (pending the outcome of pies partying allegations/rumours).
Despite this waffle, I believe that Fev will stay at the Lions anyway. Gardi may or may not retire, McEvoy will get better and Kosi will play the same role as this year with the same success. Not keen on same! We need to improve! The pies will only get better next year (pending the outcome of pies partying allegations/rumours).
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A fit and firing Fevola in the forward line would ensure a Saints premiership. Make his pay performance based. He may be a moron but he's no different to 80% of players in the AFL
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So people want to replace one FF who does not chase...with another FF that does not chase..
Main problem with Fev is that he is a "Me" Man rather than a Team Man.
Main problem with Fev is that he is a "Me" Man rather than a Team Man.
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Hmm, there is more to a FF than chasing ability although there has been enhanced significance of this quality in the last 10 years. Fev needs to get injury free and lose a few kgs. As a brisbane-ite I watch all the lions games and it was embarrassing watching him play 4 + weeks whilst obviously injured.saintsRrising wrote:So people want to repalce one FF who does not chase...with another FF that does not chase..
Main problem with Fev is that he is a "Me" Man rather than a Team Man.
Not many FF are decent chasers. Fev is atleast in the contest once the ball hits the ground, wheras Kosi is not. And infact I would think Fev is favourite to win the ball on the ground against most FBs.saintsRrising wrote:So people want to repalce one FF who does not chase...with another FF that does not chase..
Main problem with Fev is that he is a "Me" Man rather than a Team Man.
He's also a very good kick for goal.
Not saying I want him, but I don't not want him and if Ross signs him up I'll be wrapped. But I'm happy for Ross to leave him alone too.
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True...Don't forget he also battled injuries this season, something he hasn't had to deal with much before.SainterK wrote:and here lies the problem, IMOMoccha wrote:He's got 2 years of top footy in him. Get his head right and he's unstoppable. Given the state of St.Kilda's forward line he's worth the risk
For me, we would need to get him cheaply, and we we need a fair chunk of his salary to be paid by the Lions. I'm not sure if it's possible because I'm pretty sure he is owed around $800k for the next two years.
If he has broken his contract, we could get him through the PSD and set our own price, or else we would need Lions to pay atleast half of his contract
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How to find more cash? Agreed that Lions would have to pay some of his contract. With so many players fleeing, they may have some room to do this. Blake a veteran next year? King to retire (not that he would have been on much). Gardi a possible retirement? Is lovett being paid out under the salary cap?#1GILL wrote:True...Don't forget he also battled injuries this season, something he hasn't had to deal with much before.SainterK wrote:and here lies the problem, IMOMoccha wrote:He's got 2 years of top footy in him. Get his head right and he's unstoppable. Given the state of St.Kilda's forward line he's worth the risk
For me, we would need to get him cheaply, and we we need a fair chunk of his salary to be paid by the Lions. I'm not sure if it's possible because I'm pretty sure he is owed around $800k for the next two years.
If he has broken his contract, we could get him through the PSD and set our own price, or else we would need Lions to pay atleast half of his contract![]()
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Brisbane want him out, he wants to play footy cos he's got nothing else left, get him off the piss, pay him a performance based wage, get him fit and he'd dominate in our forward line. The Saints may have 2 years at the top before they start their decline and he would be the one to bring it home for them.
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mad saint guy wrote:
B: Gwilt, Dawson, Miles
HB: Gram, Blake, Fisher
C: Dal Santo, Hayes, Kerr
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, Gilbert
F: Milne, Fevola, Steven
Foll: Gardiner, Goddard, Montagna
Int: Jones, Ray, Koschitzke, Armitage
Emg: McEvoy, Geary, Clarke
How on earth are you going to fit Kerr and Fev into the salary cap ?
IMO we certainly dont need Fev, but a fit Kerr would be an asset.
B: Gwilt, Dawson, Miles
HB: Gram, Blake, Fisher
C: Dal Santo, Hayes, Kerr
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, Gilbert
F: Milne, Fevola, Steven
Foll: Gardiner, Goddard, Montagna
Int: Jones, Ray, Koschitzke, Armitage
Emg: McEvoy, Geary, Clarke
How on earth are you going to fit Kerr and Fev into the salary cap ?
IMO we certainly dont need Fev, but a fit Kerr would be an asset.
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B: Gwilt, Dawson, Miles
HB: Gram, Blake, Fisher
C: Dal Santo, Hayes, Ray
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, Gilbert
F: Milne, Fevola, Steven
Foll: Kosi, Goddard, Montagna
Int: Jones, Peake, McEvoy, Armitage
Emerg: McQ, Eddy, Stanley, Clarke
Out: Baker, Gardi (both Retired), McQ, Eddy
In: Fev, Miles, Steven, Armitage
HB: Gram, Blake, Fisher
C: Dal Santo, Hayes, Ray
HF: Schneider, Riewoldt, Gilbert
F: Milne, Fevola, Steven
Foll: Kosi, Goddard, Montagna
Int: Jones, Peake, McEvoy, Armitage
Emerg: McQ, Eddy, Stanley, Clarke
Out: Baker, Gardi (both Retired), McQ, Eddy
In: Fev, Miles, Steven, Armitage