Interesting image

[Furphy]

On the AFL homepage there is a very telling pic taken on the full-time siren. The Collingwood players are lying on the ground looking beaten, whilst the Saints players (except Montagna) are on their feet still looking determined. Check it out;
http://www.afl.com.au/Default.aspx

[saintDal]

Dal Santo is also on the ground. Thought it was pretty funny that the umpire helped him up.

[sRaf]

I'm almost certain that image was taken seconds after the siren. Dal Santo is still on the ground with the ump on top of him, meaning he still had the ball with him. In that case, I think the player behind the AFL logo is probably Lenny Hayes.

[saints11]

On the AFL homepage there is a very telling pic taken on the full-time siren. The Collingwood players are lying on the ground looking beaten, whilst the Saints players (except Montagna) are on their feet still looking determined. Check it out;
http://www.afl.com.au/Default.aspx

They're looking more shocked than determined

[OhMyGoddard]

On the AFL homepage there is a very telling pic taken on the full-time siren. The Collingwood players are lying on the ground looking beaten, whilst the Saints players (except Montagna) are on their feet still looking determined. Check it out;
http://www.afl.com.au/Default.aspx

I think you are seeing what you want to see. There is really no difference at all.

[supersaints]

Sam Gilbert was also lying down... (he did appear to have a cramp though).
Thought our boys looked focused and I think we are much more mentally tough than the filth. maybe all those distarctions and hurdles we faced makes the players resolve even better....

[jonesy]

Dal Santo is also on the ground. Thought it was pretty funny that the umpire helped him up.

Only help they gave us all day. The first quarter was insipid. No such thing as a holding the ball against Collingwood. The trend of 2010 continues. Show's how good this side is

Imagine if we actually get the rub of the green next week

[OhMyGoddard]

Dal Santo is also on the ground. Thought it was pretty funny that the umpire helped him up.

Only help they gave us all day. The first quarter was insipid. No such thing as a holding the ball against Collingwood. The trend of 2010 continues. Show's how good this side is

Imagine if we actually get the rub of the green next week

C'mon Jonesy. Imagine if Milne's hand in the back was paid when he took that mark.
The umps could have paid 15-20 frees to either side but they let them go. Much more preferable in my opinion.

[saint3d]

On the replay they showed repeatedly Lenny collapsing first to all fours, then face first into the turf. So you could read what you like into photos of that too.

Having said that, I thought a lot of leadership was shown to get everyone on to their feet shortly after. It was also good Channel 7 went to Maxwell for the first interview so Lyon and Riewoldt could gather the troops and say a few words.

[degruch]

Dal Santo is also on the ground. Thought it was pretty funny that the umpire helped him up.

Only help they gave us all day. The first quarter was insipid. No such thing as a holding the ball against Collingwood. The trend of 2010 continues. Show's how good this side is

Imagine if we actually get the rub of the green next week

C'mon Jonesy. Imagine if Milne's hand in the back was paid when he took that mark.
The umps could have paid 15-20 frees to either side but they let them go. Much more preferable in my opinion.

I'd take that, and give it back by paying the blatant push in the back against Thomas to Milne, then add about 5 to Roo for high contact during a marking contest and the push in the back Kosi received about 20m from goals. Take away the silly 50m penalty against Mini and we won by about 6 goals. Imagine if our forward 50 delivery had been better...a 10 goal win!

[jonesy]

Dal Santo is also on the ground. Thought it was pretty funny that the umpire helped him up.

Only help they gave us all day. The first quarter was insipid. No such thing as a holding the ball against Collingwood. The trend of 2010 continues. Show's how good this side is

Imagine if we actually get the rub of the green next week

C'mon Jonesy. Imagine if Milne's hand in the back was paid when he took that mark.
The umps could have paid 15-20 frees to either side but they let them go. Much more preferable in my opinion.

Umpiring was disgraceful in first quarter,at best

[OhMyGoddard]

Dal Santo is also on the ground. Thought it was pretty funny that the umpire helped him up.

Only help they gave us all day. The first quarter was insipid. No such thing as a holding the ball against Collingwood. The trend of 2010 continues. Show's how good this side is

Imagine if we actually get the rub of the green next week

C'mon Jonesy. Imagine if Milne's hand in the back was paid when he took that mark.
The umps could have paid 15-20 frees to either side but they let them go. Much more preferable in my opinion.

Agree Roo didn't get looked after like he usually does.
The 50m against Ray was for his stupidity.

I'd take that, and give it back by paying the blatant push in the back against Thomas to Milne, then add about 5 to Roo for high contact during a marking contest and the push in the back Kosi received about 20m from goals. Take away the silly 50m penalty against Mini and we won by about 6 goals. Imagine if our forward 50 delivery had been better...a 10 goal win!

[Dan Warna]

the first quarter was not insipid.

collingwood spent all their petrol tickets in the first 45 minutes.

st kilda drip fed theirs over a 100 minutes.

both teams were dead on their feet at the end.

[sRaf]

Umpiring was disgraceful in first quarter,at best

I dunno, the quarter finished off with an even amount of free kicks to both teams. We were in situations to get more free kicks, but the ones which they didn't pay in the first quarter were the ones they let go all day.

I think it just looks bad because there were more potential free kicks than usual in that first. But to each his own I guess. I personally thought the umpires did a decent job for the most part.

[degruch]

Agree Roo didn't get looked after like he usually does.
The 50m against Ray was for his stupidity.

Roo didn't get the kicks he deserved...getting looked after my arse.

Ray wasn't stupid, the penalty was...should he go back in time 100 milliseconds and take back the kick off the ground? The umpires gifted a goal to the Filth, at that point I was sure the whole game was to follow.

[OhMyGoddard]

Agree Roo didn't get looked after like he usually does.
The 50m against Ray was for his stupidity.

Roo didn't get the kicks he deserved...getting looked after my arse.

Ray wasn't stupid, the penalty was...should he go back in time 100 milliseconds and take back the kick off the ground? The umpires gifted a goal to the Filth, at that point I was sure the whole game was to follow.

Ray was stupid. He must have known the free had been paid and had a brain snap.

[degruch]

Agree Roo didn't get looked after like he usually does.
The 50m against Ray was for his stupidity.

Roo didn't get the kicks he deserved...getting looked after my arse.

Ray wasn't stupid, the penalty was...should he go back in time 100 milliseconds and take back the kick off the ground? The umpires gifted a goal to the Filth, at that point I was sure the whole game was to follow.

Ray was stupid. He must have known the free had been paid and had a brain snap.

Please, don't ever become an umpire.

[OhMyGoddard]

Agree Roo didn't get looked after like he usually does.
The 50m against Ray was for his stupidity.

Roo didn't get the kicks he deserved...getting looked after my arse.

Ray wasn't stupid, the penalty was...should he go back in time 100 milliseconds and take back the kick off the ground? The umpires gifted a goal to the Filth, at that point I was sure the whole game was to follow.

Ray was stupid. He must have known the free had been paid and had a brain snap.

Please, don't ever become an umpire.

OK - just cause you asked.