like peter costello, beetham had no ticker and forever both will be reviewed as coulda, woulda but never did.

the only difference of course was beetham had talent and costello's nickname was and will remain the tin man, he had no heart.

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funding is locked in, guaranteed, a sure bet.

merlino just posturing by reminding people he is still a player in all this - he suffers from small man syndrome but is a pretty good bloke away from politics.

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how about...

"under promise, over deliver!"

at the very least the board and mgmt should use this in their public comments.

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what does his tatt say?

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i had been told that watts had 1 more year on his contract.

but i don't know what for sure.

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AT my word from the eagles is Judd didnt have a problem with any of the w/c players although he didnt agree with their life style and choices he personally got on well with most players but he did have a few concerns with some coaching staff (namely sumich) where they had a conflict of personalitys...

yes like in 07 alone erm heath scotland charged with assault in balarrate in februar, whitnall, grigg, simpson fisher charged with breaking curfew, holland fined with assualting and abusing a woman, dudak and holland long history at the particular bar in question (it wasn't a one night event) in 06...

orly how are dudak and dutchies mates down preston way :roll: as for carlton, i think only the new boy hasn't seen the inside the inside of a magistrates court for some reason or another in the past few years. Dan don't be blinkered in your rationality, didak was stupid no doubt about it, but he wa...

saintsRrising wrote:Thanks...can you also please clear up them why his declared best mate and guy he live with for ages is a guy called Daniel Kerr?

yup, he pops but is not an addict.

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ok, there have been a number of thoughts about judd and the saints and other clubs, so i thought it was time to set the record straight with the real reason Judd doesn't want to come to St Kilda at the moment... ...is because on our playing list is one Michael Gardiner, and the reason he is refusin...

ok, there have been a number of thoughts about judd and the saints and other clubs, so i thought it was time to set the record straight with the real reason Judd doesn't want to come to St Kilda at the moment... ...is because on our playing list is one Michael Gardiner, and the reason he is refusing...

Brewer wrote:Can anyone point to any links between Westaway and Fox?

I would have thought they were competitors in the same industry, and unlikely to be close buddies.

oh, you are so much closer to understanding why they are NOT working together on this than anyone else...

kudos to you!

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stinger wrote: at....not andrew are you.....?????

stinger, i can promise you 100% that my name is not andrew either. i do not post here under any other name.

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I've heard Foxes definately want Butterss out. So they seem not so much pro SFF , but very anti Rod True but they are not completely in love with all on the SFF ticket BUT it is the lesser of two evils. That said, this is not about the Fox family but the future direction and leadership of our great...

Thats good and fine AT, but you are just an anonimous nic on an internet site, your guarnatees mean SFA. JB yes i am anonymous and for good reason and as such i'll cop your comment fair and square BUT i've been posting here for a while and everything i've offerred up has been proven right (if you g...

Spert you make way to much sense for this joint. I too have very real fear of Fox behind this - despite the obvious Westaway denial. I also have grave concerns that should Fox have his filthy mits anywhere near this...that his poster boy Grant Thomas would not be far behind. A black day for this cl...

I'm concerned that Fox is behind this push, the fatcat who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw him -another jetsetting playboy who is happy to use this club as his toy. As for veiled inferences by his puppet Westaway, well at least Butters comes out and names names when he babbles to the media...

chook23 wrote:

SENsaintsational wrote:Today's Herald Sun article by Damian Barrett says SFF have the 'backing of the powerful Fox family'.

Interesting.

is it fact though

No.

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Also good to see Lindsay Fox flushed out as the backer of this group. I wonder if moneybag will repay the players he paid 20c in the dollar in 1984? Or will FFS try to merge us with Carlton again. Starting to get to see the real truth behind the faces of this challenge. joffaboy i can 100% categori...

yeah, if yesterday's man "always tomorrow" had of not stuffed up our recruiting for five years in the recent past, we might not NOW be behind the eight ball, going forward "always needs to be talked about" might be more appropriate or perhaps "always full of himself " ...

always tomorrow is an accurate poster IMO :wink: maybe but the obvious bias in his sig gives him away a touch to be taken to seriously I wouldve thought.... Teflon I put those views out there very publicly so people know exactly what they are and can judge me accordingly. If you wish to judge my co...

the fact that Smith is supporting Butterss should be enough proof he needs to go!

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carn_sainter wrote:Whilst i'm sure this presidential challenge talk is largely rubbish and i am skeptical that any change will occur...

talk is certainly not rubbish AND change will occur.

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Mr Magic wrote: Oh I didn't realize you were an oracle?

no need to be rude, i've not belittled you at all - i was simply answering your question. in future, i'll refrain from doing that for you given your apparent displeasure with my responses.

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Mr Magic wrote: So that is how he is demonizing Burke?

there are comments on the record and there are comments off the record.

i'll leave the rest for you to deduce...

nothing i've said on here can be proven to be false, from my very first post...that is fact.

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