I'm hearin' this but is it not realistic enough to insist on a Steven-Kelly-Hill three-way and hold onto pick 5? Freo win in that trade. If you could go back a year in time then yes. But here and now in 2020, NO . At the end of 2020: -Kelly is significantly worth more than Hill -Hill is significant...

Hell... they can have Jack Newnes, too, if that makes it happen!! This then protects 5 for us

They could be looking for something along these lines next year: B: Geary, Wilkie, Tomlinson HB: Clark, Battle, Savage C: Hill, Steele, Hannebery HF: Billings, Marshall, Hind F: Parker, King, Membrey Foll: Ryder, Gresham, Ross Int: Coffield, Dunstan, Paton, Sinclair Well Pick 5 will gain Hill. Ryde...

B.M wrote: ↑Tue 27 Aug 2019 6:30pm None of those players kick 40 per year

Which Key Forward is going to protect Max King next year, so he doesn’t get the gorilla defender at 19yo

Yeah., Good point. I don't get the J Bruce talk.... unless it is prompted by another club that wants him. I'd be keeping him.

whiskers3614 wrote: ↑Tue 27 Aug 2019 8:16am Perhaps we could make him vice-captain to LOng?

Ha, ha, ha.... you might need to get over my deliberately controversial topics and assertions.
The smart people took it for what it was... a talking point.
Unproductive belittling commentary is a bit disappointing.

Dude's 30-31. Playing well. Best disposal eff. at the club.
Supported by Battle, Wilkie, Clav, perhaps Logan... why is he being talked about like he's 35?

Certainly not trade bait to me He has a flair not seen with us for a few years Someone to get excited about on game day Train him correctly and and he may become anything, except captain Lonie appears to be the one who shows leadership on the field Trouble is he must be hampered lately as he is not...

Crossy66 wrote: ↑Tue 20 Aug 2019 6:23am Shows glimpses but too inconsistent, fringe best 22 on exposed form. Needs a few more games under the belt.

fair points

I cut him some slack because of his injury. With Brown approaching retirement we have no other gorillas in the backline and they're hard to get. Why throw him away? And keep a whole platoon of battlers? It's like trading away McEvoy, Stanley and Hickey. Thing is... Brown is only 30. With Wilkie, Cl...

He’s a much better player than Coffield atm Savage and Geary are walk up starts in back 6 Savage and Webster being walk ups are why we suck. We need to find a guy who cracks in as hard as Webster, but can kick. We need to find a bloke that is harder in the contest than Savage, and can use it just a...

Has everybody lacked imagination? For the past number of years St Kilda has been vanilla. A vanilla coach, vanilla captain, vanilla drafting priorities, vanilla brand (and vanilla playing record). Ya really think a crazy-brave decision of taking one of our most aggressive, talented young players and...

This thread's a joke, right? A, he's not our best player and B, since when do you make your best player captain? Better they keep being the best player and let the best leader be captain. This is complete bollocks. I reckon half the teams in history have their best player as captain. (I don't agree...

We had to create the trigger to ensure he remains contracted so we have leverage if we choose to trade him.

No. But it did hurt some players For too long we have prioritised effort over skill. I hope they appoint Ratts because he clearly has had a gutful of poor skill already. It’s exactly what we need to bring into the club. Agreed, but more nuance... WE prioritised athleticism during the Lyon era over ...

5 to GWS for 10 and 14 10 for Hill Steven and 14 for Constable, Smith and 18 18 and 2020 1st for King Tomlinson and S.Hill Free Agents Biggy Nyuon and Ned Cahill in draft Trade Acres, Newnes, Lonie and Dunstan and trade picks for 2nd rounder to get Cahill. Delist Pierce Longer White Retire Armo and...

I love Harves, however, he hasn’t coached his own team. Imo that’s a pretty important feature of a coaches cv. can you name the last premiership coach that came to the club with previous senior coaching experience? since leigh matthews there's been just one, and his next team sacked him when they s...

I know it's early, but.... we gotta be a smokey for a flag in 2021... Webster Carlisle Paton Coffield B King Battle Billings Gresh Clarke Membrey King B Hill Long Bruce Hind F: Marshall Steele Hannebery Pine: Sinclair, Z Jones, Dunstan, Acres Em: Lonie, Langlands, Parker, Kent Who is captain? Got f...

SinCitySainter wrote: ↑Mon 19 Aug 2019 7:16pm Ryder is the one I would be looking at.
Can do a job at either end of the ground as he showed in his days at the Bombers and is a good first ruck if Marshall goes down.

He won't come. He would surely be a no.1 ruck; won't come to play second fiddle.

I think we'll not get an outstanding ruckman. Who would want to come to play second string? Change of focus required now. We need a backup ruckman. The names mentioned aren't that.

Leadership qualities seem important in that role. Any comment on those? He's pretty vocal onfield but I think not as vocal as he would be as a captain. Family designed the jumper - it's a great emotional link to the club and I reckon he cares. There are different kinds of leaders. I think Ben would...

His best is a class above anything else we have . But only brings his best maybe once or twice a game at most, and then goes missing for extended periods. If he can get his hands on the ball an extra 6 - 10 times per game he will easily be our most dangerous and exciting forward. I agree with what ...

As per the title: kid has class, aggro, skills to burn, strength, and a massive future. Make him captain and watch him soar and demand the same of the team. Disagree if you like. So how many bottles did you consume prior to posting? A few... but not so much that. I was throwin' it out there to get ...

I know it's early, but.... we gotta be a smokey for a flag in 2021...

Webster Carlisle Paton
Coffield B King Battle
Billings Gresh Clarke
Membrey King B Hill
Long Bruce Hind

F: Marshall Steele Hannebery
Pine: Sinclair, Z Jones, Dunstan, Acres

Em: Lonie, Langlands, Parker, Kent

As per the title: kid has class, aggro, skills to burn, strength, and a massive future.

Make him captain and watch him soar and demand the same of the team.

Disagree if you like.

George27 wrote: ↑Sun 26 May 2019 11:39pm Excellent game from him today.

Yep. I've been a critic (and still think his disposal needs work). But he's been a bull inside since returning to the side.