Paton Howard Wilkie McKenzie Clavarino Highmore Coffield Byrnes Connelly Clark Battle Butler Higgins King Sharman Marshall Steele Gresham Inter: Bytel Long Joyce Lonie Bolded players are the ones I think can still be on our list in 4 years time. Doesn't mean they all will be, just the ones I think ...

I’d heard of Draper, he was a dominant VFL ruckman with obvious talent I hope our recruiters add "Who has B.M heard of?" To the criteria they look at moving forward. Draper had not played an AFL game, Lynch had and did well. In no way am I saying he is better than Draper, just that it isn...

B.M wrote: ↑Tue 27 Jul 2021 7:22pm Who

Never heard of him

Not even an AFL player atm

Same was true of Draper when we went after him.

Had we have got him I believe our season would be in different shape right now.

George Hewett- 25 year old backman/midfielder playing for swans Restricted free agent Matt Crouch Midfielder, better than Brad? Not played in 2021 still unsigned. *if dunstan goes then worth getting him Max Lynch Backup ruckman from Collingwood. Beat gain and can go forward. Out Dunstan (his choice)...

Hope we're into this guy, reportedly will be looking at his options this off season.

Beat Gawn when he played this year and like ryder/Marshall can go forward if required.

reckon score involvements is a better stat as it doesn't have as much a forward bias.

Either way I'm guessing members

In : McKenzie (sub), Carlisle/Ryder, Crouch

Out : Webster, McKernan, Lonie

Gresham and Billings to spend more time forward pushing Lonie out.

Jones and Clark to spend more time at HB pushing Webster out.

McKernan the inferior ruckman. Either ryder or carlisle in for him.

I think his best opportunity to crack into the side will be round 1 and 2 based on Dan and Brad sitting in the stands. If he isn't selected by round 3 I'd say he is going to have a real fight on his hands if all our first choice top liners are fit and firing. What we need is for him to make a compe...

Most important player to the side? - Ryder- Has serious influence and a unique skill Who will be most improved player? - Josh Battle Who will be the surprise player of 2021? - Brad Hill- one year off his best and everyone has forgotten what this bloke is capable of Who will be traded at seasons end?...

Your OP generated some good discussion. Try not to derail it by turning the conversation into a "I'm right, you're wrong" one. He is young, the future is unknown. Depending on your lense he is capable of seeing out this contract and fading from memory or playing 150+ games. Solid arguments...

Some comparisions at the same age. Long vs Geary https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=16&playerStatus2=A&tid2=16&type=A&pid1=6351&pid2=1840&fid1=O&fid2=O Long vs Webster https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?player...

Re if he was traded I'd almost be disappointed if we let him go for a pick in the 30s.

We know he can play afl and has upside. Pick in the 30s has to develop and could be sub afl standard.

Rather hold the asset we have than change and hope.

Also important to recognise he is only 23. 6 to 10 years of footy left in him. Currently you back him 1 on 1 vs any opponent, know he is going to bring a bit of fear to the oppo and he has the capabilities to do the odd freakish thing. Sounds like a great young option who is probably picked somewher...

A minor calf strain isn't the end of the world. If it was his hammy id be worried.

Agree with suggestion above that resting in certain games would seem a good strategy.

Dal Santo and BJ both did well when forward.

Clarke before injuries.

They however spent very little time forward due to the quality of our forwards in that time, both tall and small.

Paton Howard Wilkie Coffield Carlisle Clark Hill Steele Jones Membrey Battle Billings Butler King Marshall Ryder Crouch Trelour Hannebery Gresham Long Sinclair/Higgins Traded: Dunstan, Ross, Lonie Recruited: Crouch, Trelour, J. Higgins Midfield rotations. Crouch, Steele, Trelour, Jones, Hill, Gresha...

Who is TT Tom Terrific. Sorry. It's that Italian bloke from Steak and Kidney. Tim Taranto His AFL stats aren't all that impressive This year I agree. Last year as a 21 year old though he averaged nearly 30 touches a game and 5 clearances. For reference Steele averaged 5 clearances a game this year....

The small forward value argument aside our midfield hasn't been deep enough for a long time.

I do think if we're going to recruit another one after crouch though they need to be able to play forward or should be younger than 26.

Think it might be worth going back and watching the games we lost.

We got beaten by inside bulls.

Crouch is an inside bull.

Jack Steven god love him, was not.

Would arguably be our best midfielder and definitely top 3 next year. Massive win for us. Paton Howard Wilkie Coffield Carlisle Long Hill Steele Jones Gresham Battle Billings Butler King Membrey Marshall Crouch Clark Hannebery Ryder Dunstan Sinclair Midfield rotations Crouch, Steele, Jones, Hill, Gr...

Money talks.

Tim Kelly.

With Cameron going to Geelong it should be easier to pull players out of there. Parfitt is 22, progressed to the midfield over the last two years and can kick goals. Importantly is out of contract (I think) so whilst we might have to trade we wouldn't have to give up the world. Esava Ratugolea worth...

We need miss more than anything. Crouch for now and Caldwell for the future would do me. Our first as a straight swap should be enough for Caldwell. Wouldn't leave much to take to the draft though. This is my thoughts too. Then you can trade around the edges. Savage, Lonie and co for 2nd and 3rd ro...

No chance of us trading billings. 25 year old best 22 player with scope to be a top 10 player who did not have a bad season. Not what many expected or hoped for but not disgraceful by any means. Gresham even less chance of being traded. Savage, Lonie, Hind, McKenzie, Ross, Dunstan, Webster, Parker, ...