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by BarryGrogan
Sat 22 Jun 2019 3:21pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: ATT: RICHO BASHERS
Replies: 87
Views: 5903

Re: ATT: RICHO BASHERS

Pffffft dream on Our playing list is not good enough off load them before the coach. There are dozens and dozens of footballers who have gone from ordinary footballers u der one coach, to very good footballers under another. Similarly, there are doxens and dozens of foorballers who have been ordina...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 10:54pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: I'm Pro Cho!
Replies: 26
Views: 1779

I'm Pro Cho!

I'm officially a Cho Bro. We haven't lost a player under Cho's watch. Granted, no one wants our players - but nonetheless, we've held on to another one in Billings. If Cho can stay out of Ratten and Lade's way and let them continue to rebuild the team on-field, I don't see a reason to Throw Cho. So ...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 10:10pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: ATT: RICHO BASHERS
Replies: 87
Views: 5903

Re: ATT: RICHO BASHERS

Yes I think he has coached better this year. But I think that there are ongoing issues like our forward line entries that after coaching for so long indicate that he is not the answer. Development of youth was meant to have been a key reason of why he was appointed. I look at our youth at Sandi and...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 9:58pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

Racism needs to carry some intent of malice or ill-will. It doesn't at all. And that's the entire premise of my argument. You oven posted the definition yourself! To be racist means to hold a belief or view that a person, or group of people, are in some way inferior or less worthy than others And t...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 9:46pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

What your ignorant grandma did 50 years ago is irrelevant. No offence, but your grandma didn't sound that wonderful or compassionate, but it does sound like you're now on a bad guilt trip, man. Why would I be guilty? Racism was everywhere 25 years ago. It was rife all around me. It still is to less...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 9:42pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

...people assuming that someone doesn't know enough about football to be one of Gil's Gestapo because they weren't born here is not racist. It may be an assumption, it may be incorrect, it may be ignorant, or it may be ill-informed, but it is not racist. Go back and read what I wrote. It'll save yo...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 7:46pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

Maybe you need to stop using words incorrectly. You made a statement about those throwing the phrase "leftie" around, but you are using the exact behaviour that elicits that response. You are misusing the word "racist". People are not being racist, they are discriminating. To be...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 6:47pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

What your ignorant grandma did 50 years ago is irrelevant. No offence, but your grandma didn't sound that wonderful or compassionate, but it does sound like you're now on a bad guilt trip, man. Why would I be guilty? Racism was everywhere 25 years ago. It was rife all around me. It still is to less...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 6:41pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

Maybe you need to stop using words incorrectly. You made a statement about those throwing the phrase "leftie" around, but you are using the exact behaviour that elicits that response. You are misusing the word "racist". People are not being racist, they are discriminating. To be...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 5:21pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

And there we have it, a regulation response from the “Elitist Inner Suburb Socialist Lefts on how to respond to a factual succinct rebuttal” hand book. The go to ….. “you are a racist” comment …… and the old classic “Screaming LEFTIES !!!” statement. Obviously hit a nerve. Those bully boy tactics a...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 3:39pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Richo Press Conference.
Replies: 5
Views: 546

Re: Richo Press Conference.

Impatient Sainter wrote: Thu 20 Jun 2019 3:33pm He is stepping down!
Please dude, don't be like that.

It's just not fair.
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 2:57pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

Who was that clown of a security guard who wanted to break up an on field scuffle between two players? I suspect he hadn’t been to a lot of football matches. That's racist. :roll: I wouldn't have thought it is. I think making assumptions about someone's abilities based on their actions is pretty re...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 1:50pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

If the truth be know, everyone is a racist to some extent, some more than others. As you state, some just deny it. I don't think everyone is. But plenty are. Many have changed it, and some are trying to change it. Some don't even realise they are. But some deny it, even when told that they are. And...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 1:02pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

If the truth be know, everyone is a racist to some extent, some more than others. As you state, some just deny it. I don't think everyone is. But plenty are. Many have changed it, and some are trying to change it. Some don't even realise they are. But some deny it, even when told that they are. And...
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 12:26pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

Why do people keep calling them 'fans'?

They're customers.


Like any business, if the customers stop buying rhe product, the product either changes to suit the customers - or it dies.

If you don't like the product that the AFL is producing, stop buying it. That's the only way it will ever change.
by BarryGrogan
Thu 20 Jun 2019 12:22pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

If you have ever visited countries like China and India, or as a general rule the Middle Eastern and Asian countries as a whole, are intolerant to immigrants and you will find that they are some of the most racist and bigoted places on earth. You could probably surmise that the very people you are ...
by BarryGrogan
Wed 19 Jun 2019 7:29pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Keep Cho to get Coniglio?
Replies: 18
Views: 966

Re: Keep Cho to get Coniglio?

But Barry, what about your Coniglio (swipe left) comment? Is this just another one of your threads to divert attention to you and ignore the fact that you treated the original story as piffle? You obviously misinterpreted my other post. Apparently on Tinder, when you're looking for a root, you swip...
by BarryGrogan
Wed 19 Jun 2019 7:13pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

If you have ever visited countries like China and India, or as a general rule the Middle Eastern and Asian countries as a whole, are intolerant to immigrants and you will find that they are some of the most racist and bigoted places on earth. You could probably surmise that the very people you are ...
by BarryGrogan
Wed 19 Jun 2019 5:09pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

Nothing stupid about his comments at all, even though he has been forced to apologise by the PC police. I believe this is why this country is so divided. It's why people point fingers at others after the Liberals win an election and say "My god Australians are stupid." It's the denial tha...
by BarryGrogan
Wed 19 Jun 2019 4:31pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

So are you saying of all those "Behavioural Adjustment Officers" that are almost exclusively non-anglo are people of sub-contintental and African appearance that were all born here? No. I'm not saying anuything of the sort. I'm actually saying that unless I know that person, I have no ide...
by BarryGrogan
Wed 19 Jun 2019 2:58pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

The ones I have noticed appear to have Mediterranean complexions, basically the same as a lot of Europeans and looked white to me. not coloured at all. Just your typical bouncer thug. or soccer hooligan. Skin colour didn't come into it So who really is the racist? So when you spruiked that Kennett ...
by BarryGrogan
Wed 19 Jun 2019 2:22pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Overkill
Replies: 370
Views: 17379

Re: AFL Overkill

The ones I have noticed appear to have Mediterranean complexions, basically the same as a lot of Europeans and looked white to me. not coloured at all. Just your typical bouncer thug. or soccer hooligan. Skin colour didn't come into it So who really is the racist? So when you spruiked that Kennett ...
by BarryGrogan
Wed 19 Jun 2019 2:04pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Keep Cho to get Coniglio?
Replies: 18
Views: 966

Re: Keep Cho to get Coniglio?

The_Dud wrote: Wed 19 Jun 2019 1:59pm Not interested in us anyway.
So if that is the case, the club really needs to sit down and understand exactly these guys don't want to come to Moorabbin.

Much of it we will have no control over (ie. big games etc.), but they really need to address why thia keeps happening.
by BarryGrogan
Wed 19 Jun 2019 2:01pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Keep Cho to get Coniglio?
Replies: 18
Views: 966

Re: Keep Cho to get Coniglio?

Coniglio doesn't have a choice who coaches the Saints if he wants to come. Well obviously. Not saying he picks the coach, but whomever it is could influence his choice whether to come or not. Personally, I wouldn't care who is coaching when you are on 1.5m @ 5 years at 25 years of age. I probably w...
by BarryGrogan
Wed 19 Jun 2019 1:45pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Keep Cho to get Coniglio?
Replies: 18
Views: 966

Keep Cho to get Coniglio?

Silly hypothetical.... But it's highly unlikely that a 'big fish' of the calibre of Coniglio would choose a club that has just sacked their coach and doesn't know who will be in charge when he gets there. So on that basis, if we want Lo, we gotta keep Cho. However the flipside is surely, that Cho wo...