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by Sanctorum
Mon 21 Oct 2019 5:35pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Who will be captain in 2020?
Replies: 47
Views: 4125

Re: Who will be captain in 2020?

Retaining Jarryn Geary as captain for 2020 would to my mind fly in the face of all of the substantial changes and improvements that the club have made on and off the field. Next year will see the Saints field a completely new look team for Round 1, with the inclusion of Hill, Ryder and Jones most ce...
by Sanctorum
Sun 20 Oct 2019 7:14pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Jack Newnes
Replies: 185
Views: 19471

Re: Jack Newnes

In a way I hope that Jack Newnes signs the 2 year deal offered by the Saints because the club has now ruled a line on the past and are going into 2020 with a totally new set up, both on and off the field. I have immense faith in Brett Ratten's capacity to get the best out of all of the players, and ...
by Sanctorum
Thu 17 Oct 2019 6:50pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Glass is now full....
Replies: 3
Views: 448

Glass is now full....

Most media commentators have rated St Kilda's trading in the past week as the best of all the AFL clubs, and I expect that Brett Ratten will be licking his lips seeing 5 experienced players wanting to play for the club in 2020 and actually now coming to Moorabbin. It is highly likely that all 5 will...
by Sanctorum
Tue 15 Oct 2019 7:49pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Jack Steven ... 58 :(
Replies: 176
Views: 16850

Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

You missed the point. It was zilch, or pick 58. We took 58. Good deal. Precisely, there's no point in agonising over this trade, Jack was most unlikely to return to anywhere near his best form when at his peak a few years ago. Winning 4 B&Fs at St Kilda has to be seen in context because not onc...
by Sanctorum
Tue 15 Oct 2019 3:30pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Jack Steven ... 58 :(
Replies: 176
Views: 16850

Re: Jack Steven ... 58 :(

I wouldn't get too worked up about receiving Pick 58 for Jack Steven. Fact is that he has had major mental health issues that have prevented him from playing a lot of games this year, and gauged on the games he played when he did come back in he did not look to be at peak fitness. Having requested a...
by Sanctorum
Sun 13 Oct 2019 5:37pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Could we deal Bruce for 26?
Replies: 6
Views: 1131

Re: Could we deal Bruce for 26?

All sounds fair to me. 13 and 32 for Bruce and 18 places Bruce at around pick 23 value. Wonder if the Dogs will deal at that price. Getting to the pointy end now so we will soon find out. Silverhalo posted that Geelong have approached Hill. Can't read the article. Any substance to it? i thought Hil...
by Sanctorum
Sun 13 Oct 2019 1:32pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: HS article: St Kilda set to pull off five big trades to transform its team
Replies: 27
Views: 3370

Re: HS article: St Kilda set to pull off five big trades to transform its team

This is by far the best journalism I have read for years, it's worthy of a Walkley for Sam Landsberger and shows just how well he knows AFL and the St Kilda footy club - this article could not have been better if it was penned by the Saints' media manager!! Just think how many readers of this report...
by Sanctorum
Fri 11 Oct 2019 2:33pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Saints trade blunders
Replies: 52
Views: 3022

Re: Saints trade blunders

Apologies - the player I should have referred to in my post was Andrew Lovett - not L-M.... I think that subsequent to Lovett's sacking it was revealed that Nick Riewoldt and other team leaders had given very strong indications to the club that they didn't want Lovett in their team, the very antithe...
by Sanctorum
Fri 11 Oct 2019 2:17pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Saints trade blunders
Replies: 52
Views: 3022

Re: Saints trade blunders

I think that subsequent to L-M's sacking it was revealed that Nick Riewoldt and other team leaders had given very strong indications to the club that they didn't want L-M in their team, the very antithesis of the team culture, as the latter had a record of domestic violence issues whilst playing for...
by Sanctorum
Thu 10 Oct 2019 5:33pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Equalisation Question
Replies: 16
Views: 1654

Re: AFL Equalisation Question

This post makes no sense at all. Free agents and free agents. Free. Not sure how it makes a mockery of it. Point taken Spinner that free agents will always have a right to choose where they want to go, all I'm arguing is that the club that they want to go to should have to give up at the very least...
by Sanctorum
Tue 08 Oct 2019 7:29pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: AFL Equalisation Question
Replies: 16
Views: 1654

AFL Equalisation Question

Can someone please explain to me how it was that Richmond was able to recruit Tom Lynch (a FA) from the Gold Coast Suns in last years trade period but was not required to give up anything whatsoever in return - sure GCS was awarded a compensation pick for Lynch - which then demoted all of the follow...
by Sanctorum
Mon 07 Oct 2019 1:15pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Simon says....
Replies: 2
Views: 660

Simon says....

Simon Lethlean has a lot of knockers on this forum, but I have always regarded him as a really strong head of football, and very committed to the improvement of our footy club. His comments on AFL.com today give an official update of the club's trading: https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-10-07/a-pair-...
by Sanctorum
Sun 06 Oct 2019 2:05pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: What is your 2020 vision?
Replies: 28
Views: 2018

Re: What is your 2020 vision?

A comprehensive analysis BUSA and I'm with you on most of your predictions except for the Best Team selections. My wish is for Geelong to allow Charlie Constable to come to St Kilda for Jack Steven, and I'm not convinced that we need to give Port Dunstan and our pick 79 for Ryder/Howard - Ryder shou...
by Sanctorum
Sat 05 Oct 2019 2:19pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Patience Of A Saint
Replies: 2
Views: 619

Re: Patience Of A Saint

You post some interesting thoughts saint6709 and I totally agree that the Saints need to bring in some elite talent for the team to get into the top 8. The club has pretty well indicated as much, with the signing of Dan Hannebery in 2017, Bradley Hill and Paddy Ryder to come in next year and possibl...
by Sanctorum
Sun 29 Sep 2019 6:25pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Looking Forward to 2020
Replies: 12
Views: 1202

Re: Looking Forward to 2020

At this juncture, with Steven not reported as having requested a trade and leaving McCartin out pending further information on his progress:- Battle Austin Coffield Clark Carlisle Roberton Hill Acres Billings Membrey Marshall Long Gresham King Steven Ryder Steele Hannebery Dunstan Bytel Ross Wilkie...
by Sanctorum
Mon 23 Sep 2019 12:27pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Roberton back in 2020
Replies: 39
Views: 4339

Re: Roberton back in 2020

Great news for Robbo. If we get him back and the only stupid thing we do is trade Bruce away then our 2020 team should look like this: B: Webster, Carlisle, Geary HB: Clark, Wilkie, Roberton C: Hannebery, Steele, Hill HF: Billings, Battle, Hind F: Long, King, Membrey Foll: Marshall, Gresham, Ross I...
by Sanctorum
Sun 22 Sep 2019 12:59pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: UPDATE- Sam McClure as well as CH7 reporting that Ryder will join StKilda
Replies: 102
Views: 9437

Re: CH7 reporting that Ryder will join StKilda

When Ross Lyon brought Steven King and Michael Gardiner to St Kilda, following Grant Thomas' philosophical lack of interest in a strong ruck, this proved to be a vital factor in the rise of the Saints to play in Grand Finals 2009/2010 - at the time Ben McEvoy was like Rowan Marshall, a promising yo...
by Sanctorum
Sun 22 Sep 2019 12:35pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Brad Crouch
Replies: 139
Views: 15372

Re: Brad Crouch

Geelong will not give up Constable as part of the Stevens trade Having a look at their midfield on Friday night, if he's any good they'd be mad to give him up. Of course, he's already had a reasonable run in their midfield this year before being omitted, maybe just making sure they get another pre-...
by Sanctorum
Sun 22 Sep 2019 11:57am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: UPDATE- Sam McClure as well as CH7 reporting that Ryder will join StKilda
Replies: 102
Views: 9437

Re: CH7 reporting that Ryder will join StKilda

When Ross Lyon brought Steven King and Michael Gardiner to St Kilda, following Grant Thomas' philosophical lack of interest in a strong ruck, this proved to be a vital factor in the rise of the Saints to play in Grand Finals 2009/2010 - at the time Ben McEvoy was like Rowan Marshall, a promising you...
by Sanctorum
Sun 15 Sep 2019 10:56am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: help needed if you were at the B&F
Replies: 14
Views: 1333

Re: help needed if you were at the B&F

Thanks SD, I'll get the small group of Saints supporters that I meet with twice weekly over coffee to get on board next year. For what it s worth we are all quite positive with the direction the club is taking, Ratten to coach, bringing in Hannebery and Hill to add some class and elite experience, s...
by Sanctorum
Sat 14 Sep 2019 12:04pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: help needed if you were at the B&F
Replies: 14
Views: 1333

Re: help needed if you were at the B&F

That is super-impressive Sainter_Dad, living in Brisbane and not getting too involved on this forum I had no idea that Saintsational was into this annual award, it certainly elevates the quality of this forum beyond a lot of the negativity and distasteful banter expressed by a number of contributors...
by Sanctorum
Sat 07 Sep 2019 7:28pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: TRADES: Fact v Fiction
Replies: 23
Views: 2879

Re: TRADES: Fact v Fiction

Jack Steven is more likely than not to go to Geelong, there is a real concern that if he stays at St Kilda he may well suffer further mental health issues and miss a lot of games, so it would be to their mutual benefits. It has been reported that Geelong could agree to release Charlie Constable as p...
by Sanctorum
Sat 07 Sep 2019 2:11pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Carlisle staying
Replies: 20
Views: 2766

Re: Carlisle staying

Initially I didn't mind the idea of Carlisle being traded out, but in reality his loss would have been hard to replace - if he can regain full fitness next year and with refreshed guidance from the new coaches there is every chance that he will get back to the elite level that he achieved with the B...
by Sanctorum
Sat 07 Sep 2019 1:55pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Ratten gets the gig
Replies: 127
Views: 12651

Re: Ratten gets the gig

I respect your admirable opinions about Robert Harvey barks4eva and only time will tell if he will eventually get a senior appointment at any AFL club. There have been quite a few assistant coaches in the AFL who like Harvey have worked at that level for 10 or more years without getting called up to...
by Sanctorum
Fri 06 Sep 2019 5:50pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Ratten gets the gig
Replies: 127
Views: 12651

Re: Ratten gets the gig

I'm delighted with Brett Ratten's appointment as the new coach of St Kilda. At the press conference he spoke candidly and with humour, consistent with his vast experience as a champion player and good coaching record at both Carlton and assistant to Clarkson at Hawthorn. I have also observed that he...