My concerns regards a small ground are as follows. One, midfielders need to be able to run because they play on grounds like, the MCG, Subi, AAMI etc. Sandy, in my opinion, isn't good for developing players to learn to run. It's a close physical game, without the run and spread. People complain that...

Agree. It's a must. Our development of young players is being hindered, not only by not having our own VFL team but playing at Sandy. The ground is too small and not good for developing players. Both Geelong and Collingwood play their home games on far better grounds. Sam Dunell seems to have devel...

According to the stat's, McEvoy not only had the most hit outs, his hitouts to advantage was the best also. Can I suggest who watch the game. McEvoy was the best ruckmen on the ground. He beat West statistically and physically.

Agree. It's a must. Our development of young players is being hindered, not only by not having our own VFL team but playing at Sandy. The ground is too small and not good for developing players. Both Geelong and Collingwood play their home games on far better grounds.

I opologise my mistake.

Did you read what I said? I think you have misread my post.

Jack wasn't great yesterday and yes, his form over the last few weeks has been ordinary. And yes, he has a few things to work on. After watching the third quarter v Melbourne, to say he is the worst player to play for the Saints, is way off the mark for mine. He has power, strength and pace. Isn't t...

If Ledger's tank is a problem, would playing on a tennis court,ie: Sandringham every second week be good for his development? I think not!

Very good overall analyse. The player I have trouble assessing is Gilbert. I know it was two/ three years ago but in 09 and to a lesser extent 010, I thought is was nearly elite in the way he played. In one of the best games, I have seen, the 09 clash v Geelong, Gilbert was outstanding. I think Sam ...

I'm a little confused but I think we might be in agreement. My point is, to look at just tap outs eg, Hille 34, McEvoy 22, etc . Is too simplistic. Watch the game, see the trends etc. use stat's as an aide, guide and then make up your own mind. If stat's are the sole bases of your opinion then I'd a...

And Freo's mids would disagree. Sandilands is the most dominate tap ruckmen in the league but Freo don't dominate the clearances. It's not black or white. Can I give the anology, the players who gets the most disposals in a game is not necessarily the most effective or best player. Sometimes they ar...

Just a thifferent point of view to think about. Visually, without stat's, Ben looks to have improved his ruckwork this year. One of the reasons, I believe the stat's show a heavy leaning to the opposition, is when Ben is not in the ruck. Kossie, whilst trying very hard, has no idea in the ruckwork d...

A little harsh and still too early to judge 2008. If I have my facts right we picked up Ray , who has given solid service. A potential ruck/ forward with enormous upside at pick 47. A potential key back in Simpkin as a rookie. We also picked up another key back in Dawson. I wouldn't think it's the r...

...meme...delusion... Lol, have you swallowed a Richard Dawkins book recently jb? Anyhow, on this I mostly agree with you. I put myself in to Walsh's shoes... He wants to make the most out of this Australian experience as he can... that means opportunity to play, but also travel... and $$. He proba...

...meme...delusion... Lol, have you swallowed a Richard Dawkins book recently jb? Anyhow, on this I mostly agree with you. I put myself in to Walsh's shoes... He wants to make the most out of this Australian experience as he can... that means opportunity to play, but also travel... and $$. He proba...

Funny....Im the guy who presents things as 'FACTS Yup thats you alright' thats right....I forgot Too bad you never let us forget your opinion stated as fact Remind me again....who used the word FACTS in this thread.... Why again. Who reminded you the first time what money is Walsh on exactly??? Ask...

How do you know they left for those reasons. Pretty everyone thinks Walsh left because the deal was to good to not take it but of course you know. Can you tell us how you know though. You ask why this and why that on everyones posts, but why do you stand up for ross lyon and how it wasnt a stuff up...

Funny....Im the guy who presents things as 'FACTS Yup thats you alright' thats right....I forgot Too bad you never let us forget your opinion stated as fact Remind me again....who used the word FACTS in this thread.... Why again. Who reminded you the first time what money is Walsh on exactly??? Ask...

they might not use every pick but I would say, nick heyne paul cahill daniel archer al smith jarryn geary ryan gamble are in trouble Nick Heyne pick 48 2008 Alistair Smith pick 2008 Paul Cahill pick 74 2008 are certainties to be no longer at the club along with Tom Lynch pick 13 2008 & Colm Beg...

How do you know they left for those reasons. Pretty everyone thinks Walsh left because the deal was to good to not take it but of course you know. Can you tell us how you know though. You ask why this and why that on everyones posts, but why do you stand up for ross lyon and how it wasnt a stuff up...

We had the 13th best pick in 2008.....and after 3 years of development that got us Pick 37....maybe after 3 years of developing pick 37 we can get Pick 59 in the 2014 draft... Backing our recruiting.....not something I would do with confidence Well, for the first time we have a decent operator in c...

How do you know they left for those reasons. Pretty everyone thinks Walsh left because the deal was to good to not take it but of course you know. Can you tell us how you know though. You ask why this and why that on everyones posts, but why do you stand up for ross lyon and how it wasnt a stuff up...

I know....and we were one of them, yes??? but its OK to stuff up...if others do... Hang on...WC didnt, and reaped the benefits... BTW....I reckon 16 clubs would be kicking themselves....questions will be asked....and hindsight was not an issue, the boy was highly rated....18 months prior to the 201...

We could have played hardball and been to arrogant to trade....like we stupidly did in the past..... or maybe we learned from our absolute stupidity and got what we could....which is NOT enough compo but its something.... We lost two guys in the trade period.......fairly and squarely because of a w...

they might not use every pick but I would say,

nick heyne
paul cahill
daniel archer
al smith
jarryn geary
ryan gamble

are in trouble