saintfreddy wrote: ↑Thu 23 Nov 2023 11:35am I remember a lot written about closer links to Sandringham

Not enough it would seem.

saintfreddy wrote: ↑Thu 23 Nov 2023 11:35am especially around taking on a player from the team.

Next year

There is nothing innovative about going all out on athletes which is what this trade and draft period has been. ?????? Peris and Allison are examples of all out athletes. The players we have picked up this year are virtually all quick and good runners apart from Arie, but all are genuinely good foo...

I wonder if they could throw a life line to Jack Peris for another shot given his speed base. No, as RTB and Co also want players who are genuine footballers, and Peris struggled with football judgement and skills. Allison may be off next year. Especially with Arie being a likely upgrade on him to ...

The list emphasis on speed as well as endurance running will have been another factor in both Billings and Gresham going.

Post his injuries I reckon that Gresham lost some of his pace, plus his kicking distance.

IN (9) Paddy Dow Liam Henry Darcy Wilson Lance Collard Angus Hastie Hugo Garcia Arie Schoenmaker Riley Bonner Liam O'Connell OUT (9) Jack Billings Nick Coffield Jade Gresham Daniel McKenzie Tom Highmore Jack Bytel Leo Connolly Oscar Adams Jack Peris So one more than last year at present. IN last ye...

You wouldn’t call an incredibly small number of players a fertile success story, Again, this is an extra option. I already stated that it was less likely. and as I say those types of recruits only seem to work at rich successful clubs The Dees were not that flash when Stynes and White arrived there...

A better strategy/option than It is an EXTRA option. The main draft is also better than the rookie draft or SSP, but neither should be ignored just because the National Draft has a higher chance of success. bringing in foreigners who grew up playing a different code. There a number of premiership p...

King is a top 5 tall forward in the AFL Higgins and Butler are one of the better combinations of small forward in the AFL (both top 20 with arguments for higher) Marshall is a top 5 ruckman in the AFL Wilkie a top 5 tall defender in the AFL Jack Sinclair a top 10 small defender in the AFL . Why hav...

I think our brains trust in the footy department were swayed by the fact that Max King was a Saints supporter... weren't they? Well in this case that would be a no, as it was between King and Rozze. And Rozee also grew up as a St Kilda Supporter. "Rozee, also a Saints fan who was comfortable w...

B.M wrote: ↑Sun 12 Nov 2023 11:04pm With FRDPs

You always go best available- regardless

You are drafting a ten to fifteen year player - immediate needs don’t come into it!

Draft for talent
Trade for needs

Exactly right.

I have been saying this for an eternity and I'll say it again, we need board positions created that have the sole responsibility for football and recruiting, and the positions need to be filled with suitably qualified and competent football people, Leigh Mathews types. That's your "whatever it...

We need to poach the best recruiters. I would tend to think that we have gone ok since Toce became our head recruiter. He seems to have a good eye for talent. Did well when was just focused on particular states. Now before Toce, yes a horror story. And a horror story made worse by too many very poo...

And somehow Dow is gonna be Mr Fix it! . He is just one of the changes: Henry will also play midfield, though probably not as much. They are chasing more young mids - but this is probably a 3 year draft project As Owens and the Poo mature they will probably get more midfield minutes, along with Win...

Now trading is done ( pick swaps can still happen) i thought i would start the Rnd 1 best 22 discussion. I have used the following parameters to get to this: - expected natural improvement after another pre season - fit list (unlikely but can hope) - older guys early round may be a little behind ot...

It says he will not get a contract renewal here. https://www.saints.com.au/news/1462654/list-update-daniel-mckenzie No, what you have stated is not correct. He may still get a contract for 2024, he just will not get a he will not receive a senior playing contract for 2024 If his body goes ok he may...

Daniel is a solid citizen but no star - why are we forking out cash to delist him, get him maybe right with no guarantee we even secure him if he gets back? We forked out the cash in order to see if he can play on. List spots are more precious than cash. He only get picked up again if he does not b...

B.M wrote: ↑Mon 06 Nov 2023 10:50pm Depends

Does those additions offset Gresham, Coffield and Billings?

For St Kilda yes. As Dow and Henry will be in the seniors

For Sandy no. For if those three had stayed, at least 2, and may be even all three would have been back up players mainly playing for Sandy.

While Max and Ben should both probably land some more tackles, I think that in the main key forwards who are your key targets are not going to land high tackle counts. Often the defenders on them will be seeking to take them out as they tray and mark. So harder for them to then chase players. There ...

Otiman wrote: ↑Sun 05 Nov 2023 7:53am

If he (Caminiti) can start kicking bags of 4 or 5, he will be better than King.

Well you probably can that about any player.

If he (INSERT NAME) can start kicking bags of 4 or 5, he will be better than King.

Less than 12 months later, So for example his wife was ill and recovered? Or one of his parents needed help but no longer does. etc Or his wife just could not handle him still be fulltime employed which she perhaps wanted to enjoy her "golden years" more? takes on another role higher up t...

Less than 12 months later, So for example his wife was ill and recovered? Or one of his parents needed help but no longer does. etc Or his wife just could not handle him still be fulltime employed which she perhaps wanted to enjoy her "golden years" more? takes on another role higher up t...

nostalgicsaint wrote: ↑Fri 03 Nov 2023 4:47am "The part-time role"

There is your answer.

Yes is only back as a "Consultant".

Vastly different than the full-time high pressure gig he was hired for at St Kilda.

happy feet wrote: ↑Wed 01 Nov 2023 1:18pm

Lycett apparently

We just announced Campbell's one year deal. So wouldn't that mean no Lycett?

I don't think it's as easy as someone comes in to replace the role Gresham plays. With the inclusions of Dow and Henry I feel we will see the whole midfield, Wing and Half Back rotations change. Wouldn't be surprised if Henry comes in and plays wing, pushing Hill to HB. Sinclair may find himself in...

There would have been suitors There was only the one that was willing to deal. Pies went with Shultz instead of Billings. Most of the trades this year were for young players swapping clubs. Especially the bottom clubs. Plus Billings had healthy 2 year contract with us. So we could not force him to ...