He makes more than a few.

Just reporting what I heard.

Got a problem with Aussie's assessment, take it up with him

My opinion on what?

State your question in the OP.

f***'s sake, I had no idea it was that difficult ...

Not to mention a commentator. And he said on ABC Radio tonight that he expected the stats sheet to reflect that along with his 34 possessions, Gram had about a dozen clangers.

Said he butchered it.

BUTCHERED it.

felixleo wrote:he has been butchering it into the forward line

Well what would you like, mate? Do you reckon he should be kicking it like Aussie Jones?

So what's your question?

Back on topic ...

So we all agree that Gram butchered the footy tonight.

Hasn't that been typical of his performance all year though? It's not like he just had an off game.

Can anyone here put their hand on their heart and say Jason Gram is not a clanger merchant? Just post it up. Don't be shy.

Iceman234 wrote:I just see him as an integral part of our team and can't think of a specific incident where he has "dogged" it.

Further to my last post Gabby Jeans used to say he had some wonderful kicks in the Hawks twos but it was no use bringing them into the seniors because they could not get a kick. Who's that, Yabby Jeans's sister? I can't imagine Yabby ever played for the Hawthorn ressies, let alone got a kick with t...

You don't need any special knowledge to see when a player has shirked it Iceman.

Well, you might, as the rose-coloured glasses seem to have obscured your vision.

Barks has it - shirks the contest and butchers the footy too often. Just because you have a reputation as an outside receiver doesn't mean you're entitled to avoid body contact when it's your turn to take a hit, lay a shepherd or execute a tackle. This is AFL, there's a minimum standard required and...

You are very much mistaken; Gwilt debuted against Brisbane in Round 22.