how great Judd is will be made clearer in the next few seasons when he's taken away from the support of Cox, Kerr, Cousins, Embley etc

will be very interesting to watch next season

I think the point that Barks is making is that your response to Ricc is actually a direct attack on Ricc, rather than a genuine contribution to the debate. The last line is certainly an attack on Ric but I do believe his POV is biased cos his club is not involved... the AFL is now trying to run the...

good point barks, my criticism of the Roos fans is EXACTLY the same as the AFLs treatment of them which Ric is supporting but wouldn't if it was us :roll: :roll: :roll: little advice... presenting out of context arguments and hoping that the ppl not knowing the full story is a technique that the And...

riccardo wrote:Serves them right, to be honest.

They had little choice, move or die, they won't move, so now they'll die.

What a pity.

lol bet u'd feel that way if it was the saints too ric

or would u have a rant at how unfair the AFL is

so righteous yet soooo predictable

i guess we haven't have had the resources/knowledge on how to properly develop players on our list...

when u compare our footy department to say that of WCE... u tend to get an idea of how far behind the mark we really start

pffft... this is rich

the kangaroos supporters have neglected and not given a cr@p about that club since the 70s and r now jumping on the bandwagon... this will last 2 years tops until they implode into the rabble that they are

BALL? WTF is wrong with some people? Yeah, he is struggling eith in jury, lets trade him, unbelievable!! Almost better off without supporters with that kind of f***ed up mindset :twisted: let me ask u this... if Ball has another year like this one and then another would ur opinion change? And I nev...

lol... I love this logic St.Mart You posted right off the bat 2 years ago that u thought Gilbert would be a star and every1 responded "Great post" "good to hear" "thanks for that" Than you post that u thought Sweeney would struggle and the majority respond "your an...

I thought GT had a positive influence too a point... pbly should have left a year b4 he was sacked. I think he did a lot of good for the club in terms of restructuring, bringing in some pride, getting rid of some bad eggs. He ultimately had some weaknesses as a coach that he couldn't/wouldn't addres...

I didn't include Rix or Blake coz they don't need to prove themselves.

We know how good they are and how they can improve (same thing) whether they deserve to be on the list is another thing

that's fantastic... i really like that article.

It's really worth remembering exactly how far behind the 8 ball we were when GT and RB came to the club...

no players, money, facilities, respect etc

we're not there yet by a long way but are heading in the right direction IMO

Gardigirl, are u going to post any actual info or just hint non specifically

I like the fact that RL has made some tough decisions regarding some under performing players. Though I don't agree with all of the players he has cut, I'm glad that some we've parted company with some players that had been in the system for 2-3-4 years and produced very little. It's obvious however...

Otiman wrote:

Sobraz wrote:Blake is closer than rix, agreed, they are not in our top 26..

Jason Blake - Top 10 Saints B&F, 2007.

yeah and we didn't make the finals

Here's something CS posted to me in another thread which has some relevance to this topic... Hope u don't mind CS The Saints are well ahead with the Frankston deal because they get an asset on the balance sheet – ie they will own the land and the admin building instead of just having a limited ter...

McEvoy rated #2 in the whole draft? he said something like we rated ben 2nd pick...i think :? I wonder who we rated #1 then... Kreuzer or Cotchin? Or someone else? We would have rated Kreuzer No1 for St Kilda because we were after a ruckman as priority..... we would have taken him him at 1... doesn...

we got 3 actually... 1 of them was on traded to Freo for Heath Black

JeffDunne wrote:Andrew . . . can I ask, why do you bother?

Even if 100% of people on this site agreed with you *shudders* - what would you like us to do about GT?

Just grandstanding Jeff... thats all B4e is doing here and thats y he keeps this up... just wants attention

also have to remember that we're not going to plug all our list's holes in 1 trade period and draft.

better to get more midfielders and rucks than subpar KPP coz we have a shortage

he generally doesn't perform as well and the travel takes a toll on his body...

i'd like to see him play in a reduced capacity this season... say home/vic games only

keep his body fresh and trial an alternative forward line in interstate games

hear hear

so many issues loosely covered...

For this topic...
moving back to st.kilda was never an option. It simply wasn't feasible and offered us less than all of the other alternatives...

staying in Moorabbin saw nothing happen over 5yrs...

you know all this, y do u refuse to look at the facts

i don't particularly want to change the name either but the idea of making a stronger connection with our new home and the locals makes sense...

any1 have ideas on how we can do this w/o changing the name?

plus we haven't had any of those feel good meaningless articles in the paper either