SO when will we hear what we "get" for losing Brendan Goddard?
The news subtext is annoying too - ABC "The StKilda football club has *surrendered* champion player Brendan Goddard to Essendon"
Just GREAT for the brand

Now I can officially slot him into the Team of Lost Souls ... its a crowded list and hard to get a game. And Pelchen is about as excited as if he just dug his hand into a bag of soggy donuts! When people say things like: plenty of upside - they really mean - yeah we know we are f***ed for most of th...

I would not think we should be paying him 800K - I believe it should never have been allowed to go to FA.
We sat on our hands when we perhaps could have offered 500-600 over 4 years.
Just another loss for us - some imaginary star from the draft will hardly compensate.

All over red rover ....
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/g ... 26uyr.html

I still think it is a foolish decision. It will cause us to drop down the ladder and this will mean fewer members. Admin obviously think we have no chance of a successful finals campaign in 5 years. I think it is pathetic! Makes me sick that we would not negotiate a "possible fourth year"...

I still think it is a foolish decision. It will cause us to drop down the ladder and this will mean fewer members. Admin obviously think we have no chance of a successful finals campaign in 5 years. I think it is pathetic! Makes me sick that we would not negotiate a "possible fourth year" ...

who will be our most senior and or best player in three years?

Wow - what a thread !! Elite = Premiership? Lockett, Barker etc. - not elite? Whitten not elite? - of course they are - it relies on the team and coach to get a flag. Wow! AA twice - should have got a Norm Smith but they awarded it before he took that mark and goal. (no disrespect to Lenny at ALL - ...

OK - so back to Watters (i gave him 6.5) ... where will his coaching get us to next year?
What would get him an 8/10 .. finishing 5th? Can we do that?

what tax would you pay on 600 G's a year? 100 grand?? half a mill in ya pocket each year? My guess would be 240K .. but there are accountants here. He still gets to earn more than the Prime Minister - which I always find to be pretty amusing - that coaches and top players get more than the country'...

I agree that his game plan has a shelf-life of no more than 5 years ... and his time with us had come to an end ... and I am happy to watch us play some more attractive footy. I just hope we can halt other teams coming hard at us - and win the close ones next year. I am not sure that any coach shoul...

If true it is probably a good and realistic offer to start the negotiations at. I certainly hope he stays - but can someone really come up with more than 120K more than that over four years? I actually do NOT feel that Freo Carltong and Ess are closer to a flag than us - we still can have another ti...

Some of us in these discussions are trying to be revisionists ... re-writing history.
When Goddard leaves all those famous posters will be burnt - the coach was woeful - Ball, Goddard etc - were useless - etc etc.

I think he coached pretty much the same as he always has. And based on tonight, I reckon he'll do the same next year too. Freo will play finals for a while. That game plan will continue to be effective against average teams, but they'll remain highly vulnerable against good teams. If Pavlich doesn'...

The only people who are embarrassing themselves are the ones who ignore the facts - we were rapidly going backwards under RL ! In the words of the great John MacEnroe "You can't be serious" - he is only the second coach to get us to two GFs .. get real. Next you will be saying the same ab...

I think he has done some good things - on performance 6/10 but because of attitude and change in plan 6.5/10 (maybe a seven tops - but we would have to have beaten another top 8 team or won a close one - neither happened)
Plenty of reason to think he could get 7.5-8 next year (near to top four)

Patterson can coach - lol
and Billy Barrot had a stellar career with us in 1971 playing two games ! Billy can also play on both sides - Barrot on Barrot
Oh the Krakouer Bros - Phil and Jim ...
just realised Xavier Clarke and G McAdam could have played lost souls too .. and Goose

Was there a Scott FF from Hawthorn?
And Jezaulenko

Russel Morris, Ricky Nixon,
Milne never played seniors at Ess I think - so you gotta have some limitations.
You mean Vic VFL or AFL clubs?
I just remembered G Sidebottom - and B Duperouzel .. who maybe could have played with the Lost souls ....

I also heard Essendon for BJ - from a kid in a Saints jumper at the bus stop - says his dad knows someone in the club!
I said "yeah, whatever"

YES!

If that is true the others must be being paid like labrats ... and Lyon must rate him and think he has under achieved under Watters

Dave - we were lucky to win - and the wind was fine - Plugger kicked 12 straight! 11 up til 3/4 time.
If it was not for that free just before the siren you would have got 1-4. It must have been a lucky kick.
Thank goodness for Harves and Lennie!

Yeah it is a bit rough - isn't it - what else can I name the other team? I know ... I will edit Good one...it's so easy to rope in the do gooders...you scored a hit there with your traitor name :lol: Well - very true, Bob - but to be honest I named the team before I realised that guys like Nicky an...

As Dave said - we have spawned from PURE CULTURE - and the rest envy that! They may have had great teams - they may have won more flags - but they lack personality, passion and every footy game has been like a holiday for us foir a long time - it has been pure entertainment. And we are still here an...